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Let $p \ge 2$ be a positive integer, and let $Q \in \mathcal P(\mathbb Z_p)$ be a probability distribution on $\mathbb Z_p$.

Question. What are necessary and sufficient conditions on $Q$ to ensure that the later admits a square-root w.r.t convolution, i.e such that there exists $D \in \mathcal P(\mathbb Z_p)$ verifying $D \star D = Q$ ?

I'm particularly, interested in the case where $Q$ is Zipf, i.e $Q(k) \propto (k+1)^{-\beta}$ for some $\beta \gt 1$.

An illustrative example

Consider the case where $p = 2$. Let $a := Q(0)$, $b:=Q(1)$, $x:=D(0)$, and $y := D(1)$. We are interested in the feasibility of the following system. \begin{align} a &= x^2 + y^2,\\ b &= xy + yx = 2xy,\\ 1 &= x + y,\\ x &\ge 0,\\ y &\ge 0. \end{align} Substituting $y = x - 1$ gives $2x(1-x) = b$, i.e $2x^2 - 2x + b = 0$, which evaluates to \begin{eqnarray} x_\pm = \frac{2 \pm \sqrt{4 - 8b}}{4} = \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1 - 2b}}{2}. \end{eqnarray} For this to be real, we require $$ b \le 1/2. $$ With this condition, note that $x_+ + x_- = 1$ and $x_+, x_- \ge 0$. Take $x=x_+$ and $y=x_-$. Now, the first equation (the circle) reduces to the requirement

$$ a = x_+^2 + x_-^2 = 2\left(\frac{1}{4} + \frac{1-2b}{4}\right) = 1-b, $$ i.e $a+b=1$, which is satisfied since $Q$ is a distribution. We conclude that in the case $p=2$, the answer to our question is affirmative if $b \le 1/2$. It's easy to check that this condition is also necessary (i.e $D$ doesn't exist when $b \gt 1/2$).

Edit: Exploring an idea based on Fourier analysis

This is based on some comments by user Paul Garrett.


So, $\mathbb Z_p$ is a compact (in fact finite!) group, and so we must have Fourier transform $\hat Q:\mathbb Z_p \to \mathbb C$, given by $$ \hat Q(k) = \frac{1}{\sqrt p}\sum_{x \in \mathbb Z_p} Q(x) e^{-2i\pi kx / p}. $$ The convolution theorem then gives $$ \hat D^2(k) = \hat Q(k),\text{ for all }k \in \mathbb Z_p. $$

For $p=2$, one has $$ \begin{split} \hat Q(k) &= \frac{1}{\sqrt 2}\sum_{x \in \mathbb Z_2} Q(x) e^{-i\pi kx} = \frac{Q(0) + Q(1) e^{-i\pi k}}{\sqrt 2} = \frac{a + be^{-i\pi k}}{\sqrt 2}. \end{split} $$ Thus, $\hat Q(0) = (Q(0) + Q(1))/\sqrt 2 = 1/\sqrt 2$ and $$ \hat Q(1) = \frac{Q(0) + Q(1) e^{-i\pi}}{\sqrt 2} = \frac{Q(0) - Q(1)}{\sqrt 2} = \frac{1 - 2b}{\sqrt 2}, $$ since $Q(0) - Q(1) = a-b = 1-b-b = 1-2b$. The convolution theorem above then translates to $$ \hat D(0)^2 = 1,\quad \hat D(1)^2 = \frac{1-2b}{2}. $$ This is only solvable if $b \le 1/2$ (aha !), in which case we must have $$ \hat D(0) = \pm 1,\quad \hat D(1) = \pm \sqrt{1-2b}. $$

Inverting this hopefully recovers the result we previously obtained.

Indeed,

$$ \begin{split} D(0) &= \frac{1}{\sqrt 2}\sum_{k \in \mathbb Z_2} \hat D(k) e^{-i\pi k \cdot 0} = \frac{\hat D(0) + \hat D(1)}{\sqrt 2} = \frac{\pm 1 \pm \sqrt{1-2b}}{2},\\ D(1) &= \frac{1}{\sqrt 2}\sum_{k \in \mathbb Z_2} \hat D(k) e^{-i\pi k} = \frac{\hat D(0) - \hat D(1)}{2} = \frac{\pm 1 \mp \sqrt{1-2b}}{2}. \end{split} $$ We can then extract those that verify the condition $D(0) + D(1) = 1$, $D(0),D(1) \ge 0$, giving

$$ \begin{split} D(0) &= \frac{1 + \sqrt{1-2b}}{2},\text{ and }D(1) = \frac{1 - \sqrt{1-2b}}{2}, \text{ OR },\\ &\text{The reverse, i.e in the above, swap }D(0),\,D(1). \end{split} $$ This precisely recovers what we obtained earlier above !

I'm not sure (but am hopeful) this method can be used to address the case of any $p \ge 3$.

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    $\begingroup$ Just to be clear, $\mathbb Z_p$ is the $p$-adic integers? In general, since this is a compact topological group, its dual is discrete, and on the Fourier expansion side, convolution becomes pointwise multiplication... ?!? $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 21 at 22:49
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    $\begingroup$ @paul garrett - Judging by the "illustrative example", $\mathbb Z_p$ is the order $p$ cyclic group. Anyway, formula $Q(k) \propto (k+1)^{-\beta}$ from the question is not compatible with either interpretation. $\endgroup$
    – R W
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    $\begingroup$ @dohmatob, $\mathbb Z/p$ is "self-dual", so general ideas of harmonic/Fourier analysis still apply... and "Fourier transform/series/etc" still converts convolution to pointwise multiplication. The meaning of the $(1+k)^{\beta}$ is very unclear, though... $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 22 at 0:35
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    $\begingroup$ The $(1+k)^{-\beta}$ thing: What I mean is that $Q(0) = c$, $Q(1) = c2^{-\beta}$, $Q(p-1) = cp^{-\beta}$, with $c$ chosen so that $\sum_k Q(k) = 1$. $\endgroup$
    – dohmatob
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    $\begingroup$ Isn't it therefore as simple as $\widehat{Q}(k)\geq 0$? $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 22 at 9:38

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You are interested in the probability measures $\mu$ that have a square root. If, instead, one imposes a somewhat stronger condition and requires existence of roots of all degrees (i.e., for any $n>1$ there is a measure $\rho$ whose $n$-th convolution power $\rho^{*n}$ is $\mu$), then the measures with this property on a group $G$ are called infinitely divisible.

If $G$ is finite, then there is a pretty explicit description of inifnitely divisible measures. Roughly speaking, these are precisely the measures obtained by an appropriately defined "exponential map". More precisely, a probability measure $\mu$ on $G$ is infinitely divisible iff there exist a positive measure $\lambda$ on $G$ (not necessarily a probability one!) and a finite subgroup $H\subset G$ such that $$ \mu = e^{-\|\lambda\|} \bigl( e^{m*\lambda*m} + m - \delta_e \bigr) \;, $$ where $m=m_H$ is the uniform probability measure on $H$, and $$ e^\theta = \delta_e + \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac1{n!} \theta^{*n} $$ is the usual exponent in the group algebra of $G$ (this is Theorem 3.2.9 in the book Probability measures on locally compact groups by Heyer).

I have to add that condition $Q(k)=C(k+1)^{-\beta}$ seems to be rather unnatural in this context as, for instance $p-1=-1$ (mod $p$). Moreover, any element of $\mathbb Z_p$ is a generator if $p$ is simple.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks (upvoted). This looks like a very elegant and general approach. As a sanity check, what does it concretely imply for my question, even in the case $p=2$ or $p=3$ ? Thanks in advance. $\endgroup$
    – dohmatob
    Commented Jan 23 at 15:13
  • $\begingroup$ One can use power series in the group algebra for other functions (logarithm or even directly square root) - see the book I quoted. $\endgroup$
    – R W
    Commented Jan 31 at 22:22

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