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It is nice that the golden ratio appears automatically when we are not looking for it. This is what happened to me when I was using GeoGebra and trying to solve a different problem that occurred to me:

Data: $C$ parabola Featured F and L, Point A moving freely on L, Point B represents Muscat-based F on L, Point M represents

Intersection of a F widget with C.

Required: Find the appropriate position for a point A which makes AM=FB.

My solution: enter image description here

Was it previously discovered or not? In any case, how do we prove that?

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  • $\begingroup$ I would suggest proving it algebraically. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 10:36
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    $\begingroup$ Drop a perpendicular from M to L. $\endgroup$
    – Bob Dobbs
    Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 10:42
  • $\begingroup$ Note that many ratios can be reduced geometrically when we prove that $AM ⊥ BM$ $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 10:44
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    $\begingroup$ Are F the focus and L the directrix of C? $\endgroup$
    – user376343
    Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 12:42
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    $\begingroup$ You might blame Google Translate, but it is up to you to put together a coherent and complete question, not Google Translate. $\endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Commented Jun 20, 2023 at 19:13

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enter image description here

GeoGebra plot with polar equations for the parabola and its directrix. Parameter $p=FB$ has been taken equal to $1$.

Let us take the focus $F$ of the parabola as the origin and the horizontal line passing through the focus as the reference $x$-axis, in particular for angles.

Let us consider the following polar equations where $\theta := \angle (Fx,FP)$ ($P$ being a generic point on the parabola) :

  • parabola's polar equation : $r= -\frac{p}{1-\sin \theta}$

  • directrix' AP polar equation : $r= -\frac{p}{\sin \theta}$

With these equations, condition :

$$AM=FB \iff FA-FM=FB$$

can be expressed as :

$$- \frac{p}{1-\sin \theta}+\frac{p}{\sin\theta}-=p$$

Setting $x:=\sin \theta$, and simplifying by $p$ : one gets quadratic equation :

$$x^2+x-1=0$$

whose unique root in interval $[-1,1]$ is

$$x=\sin \theta = \frac{1}{\Phi} = \frac{FB}{FA} \tag{1}$$

(indeed $\theta = \angle BAF$)

Tking the inverse ratio in (1) :

$$\frac{FA}{FB}=\Phi$$

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  • $\begingroup$ I suggest you reconsider your solution because geogebra says my conclusion is correct geogebra.org/m/c8ubfxda $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 12:25
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    $\begingroup$ @زكرياحسناوي don’t always believe to softwares. Use your mind instead. $\endgroup$
    – Heidegger
    Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 12:35
  • $\begingroup$ Well then, it is impossible for the answer to be 2 because this means that FM = FB and this is not possible because this only happens in the case of the hypochondrium $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 12:37
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    $\begingroup$ Downvoting answers is a reasaonable response to answers that contain errors. $\endgroup$
    – MJD
    Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 15:50
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    $\begingroup$ @MJD I never act so. If you are sure that there is an error in an answer, it means that you have spotted where it is. Therefore a curteous way is first to advise the answerer where is his/her error, then wait a certain time for her/him to correct it, leaving one or two days at least. Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum est. $\endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 21:01
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enter image description here

Draw point $D$ on $AB$ such that $MD\perp AB$.

By similiar triangles, we have

$$\frac{AF}{BF}=\frac{AM}{DM}$$

We are given that $AM=BF$. Since $F$ is the focus and $L$ is the directrix, we have $DM=FM$.

$$\frac{AF}{BF}=\frac{BF}{FM}=\frac{BF}{AF-AM}=\frac{BF}{AF-BF}=\frac{1}{\frac{AF}{BF}-1}$$

$$\left(\frac{AF}{BF}\right)^2-\frac{AF}{BF}-1=0$$

$$\therefore \frac{AF}{BF}=\frac{1+\sqrt5}{2}$$

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  • $\begingroup$ Very nice, it would be good to proceed with proving the rest of the parentage $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 13:34
  • $\begingroup$ @زكرياحسناوي Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "parentage". $\endgroup$
    – Dan
    Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 13:36
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    $\begingroup$ I'd stop the proof after $AF/BF=BF/FM$, because that is the definition of golden ratio. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 13:38
  • $\begingroup$ Google Translate bothers me to clarify things, what I meant was to prove that $MB/FM=NF/AM=Φ$ $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 13:39
  • $\begingroup$ @زكرياحسناوي Your question says "Required: Find the appropriate position for a point $A$ which makes $AM=FB$." But your comment suggests that you actually want more. Now I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for. $\endgroup$
    – Dan
    Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 13:47
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Jean Marie and Dan have already proven the first question, in my answer I'll show why all those ratios are equal to each other: At first we have:

enter image description here

$\frac{AF}{FB}=\frac{AF}{AM}=Φ$

According to what has been proven. We could also write:

$\frac{AF}{AM}=\frac{AM}{FM}$

as defined by the Golden Ratio. So since $AM=FB$ we can write:

$\frac{FB}{FM}=\frac{AM}{FM}$

Thus, in the triangles $∆AFB,∆BFM$, we have proportional sides and the angle between them is equal ( $\angle AFB=\angle BFM$) Therefore $∆AFB,∆BFM$ They are similar.

From the similarities we write: $AM⊥BM$ Thus, we get three similar right triangles, which gives:

$\frac{AF}{FB}=\frac{FB}{FM}=\frac{AB}{BM}$

It remains only to prove that the ratio $\frac{NF}{AF}$ is equal to them.

I will prove that later.

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