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I always believed that Allah is one. I never thought that I would start doubting the oneness of Allah.

Recently, I started having these sort of thoughts (auzubillah): What if Isa was part of god before he was born, then he lost all divinity and became a human prophet (which explains why he would pray to god sometimes), and then, after his resurrection he rose into the heavens and became part of god again?

I know it sounds absurd. But no matter how hard I try, I can't get it out of my head. I haven't been praying salah in a while since I'm too scared to pray salah now. If I pray salah with these sort of things in my mind, it will be like I'm praying to Isa.....and we all know that's shirk.

Before I pray salah, I always have to clear my mind and tell myself "There is no god but Allah. There is not god but Allah. Isa was just a prophet." But this doesn't always work. My mind starts thinking about that haram thing again.

How can I possibly prove it to myself that Allah does not have any parts? How can I possibly prove it to myself that Isa is not part of god? It's impossible. My only option is blind faith, but everyone says blind faith is not accepted by Allah.

If belief in Allah is fitra, then I should be allowed to have blind faith in Allah.

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  • If you have doubts, perhaps you can consider the same question, or a variant of at Sceptics.SE or Philosophy.SE - they're more orientated around notions of 'proof' & 'proving'. Commented Dec 11, 2016 at 10:34
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    I think you're going about this the wrong way. If you're interested in truth, you shouldn't be concerned with finding evidence supporting a claim you want to adhere to, you should be looking what the evidence says, and follow it wherever it leads, whether you like that place or not. The way you're doing it now, all you'll ever achieve is rare moments of rest between longer intervals of severe distress due to finding criticisms that show that all the evidence you currently have for what you want to believe is lacking.
    – G. Bach
    Commented Dec 11, 2016 at 12:49
  • Worried for you since a long time :(
    – user16528
    Commented Dec 12, 2016 at 0:43
  • What kind of proofs are you looking for? Would you be fine with accepting verses from the Qur'an?
    – Zaid
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 21:09

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A perfect being (God) cannot become imperfect, otherwise He was never perfect to begin with if he was susceptible to losing power. God's attributes are Eternal.. they are never "lost". So this scenario that you're mentioning is not possible. It just proves that Jesus was nothing but a human.. never divine. And he himself never said he is God or formerly God or a part of God. Period!

This waswasa from Satan is silly. Why don't you get 'doubts' about if you used to be an animal then turned into a human and will turn into an animal again? -- Because Satan has no purpose/reason to suggest these silly ideas to you. But he wants you to disbelieve in God/God's Oneness.

What to do: Seek refuge in Allah (ﷻ) from Satan, ignore these evil ideas and don't entertain them and most importantly..- strengthen your understanding of Tawheed (Oneness of God). There are may good books by scholars on fundamentals of Tawheed.

Also - don't give up Islamic practices which is just jumping from the frying pan and into the fire. Continue with those but seek knowledge and repent.

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  • In my other post, you said that pure doubts are haram, but not pure waswas. Let's say this idea of Isa (a.s.) being part god wasn't waswas. Let's say it's a pure doubt. So does this mean that all my salah, dhikr and fasting will be invalid until I clear this doubt?
    – user16329
    Commented Dec 12, 2016 at 10:48
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The other answer is mostly fear of satan, which can be applied to anything, and doesn't answer anything. Unlike other religions, islam encourages you to be smart, so let us examine your question in terms of importance and "answerability".

answerability

Was isa part of god before or/and after he was born ?

The only thing we can reasonably assume is that he was as much part of god than other prophets.

Is there a way to know the answer to this question ? Do the prophets merge with god in some way ?

It seems very very unlikely we can find an answer to this.

Importance

What would an answer to this question change ?

Not much actually. It would not change the texts, the prophete status, and so on.

There are plenty of such questions you can formulate. They are all very interesting, but cannot be answered, and whatever the answer would be, do not change much.

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  • This is what I find so annoying about my doubtful thoughts. Some of them are so abstract and unanswerable yet they affect me. Let me ask you something, if I had doubts in my mind (and by doubts, I mean actual doubts, not waswas), would Allah even accept my salah? I hear muslims say things like "Allah will never abandon you. He can save you from your deepest problems". If that's the case, Allah should accept my salah, dhikr and fasting, right?
    – user16329
    Commented Dec 12, 2016 at 14:46
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I always believed that Allah is one.

You yourself have stated that you "believed" Allah is one. The same way that you can believe that Allah is one it is possible to believe that Allah may not be one. Your belief is not founded on any rational theory or facts but on emotions. You can choose to believe in anything.

What if Isa was part of god before he was born, then he lost all divinity and became a human prophet (which explains why he would pray to god sometimes), and then, after his resurrection he rose into the heavens and became part of god again?I know it sounds absurd.

It's not really absurd. It makes as much sense as the oneness of Allah - your belief is based on an emotion which is faith and you can choose to believe in anything. Emotions by their very nature are not facts, they change. One emotion makes about as much sense as another.

If I pray salah with these sort of things in my mind, it will be like I'm praying to Isa.

Again if you are bothered by this, you can consciously choose to pray to whoever you like.

Before I pray salah, I always have to clear my mind and tell myself "There is no god but Allah. There is not god but Allah. Isa was just a prophet." But this doesn't always work. My mind starts thinking about that haram thing again.

You may try thinking of every creation as part of the whole. That way whoever you pray to you pray to Allah. Problem solved.

How can I possibly prove it to myself that Allah does not have any parts? How can I possibly prove it to myself that Isa is not part of god? It's impossible. My only option is blind faith, but everyone says blind faith is not accepted by Allah. If belief in Allah is fitra, then I should be allowed to have blind faith in Allah.

I have news for you - All faiths ARE blind - like totally. There are no proofs for emotional values. You don't reason out an emotion - there is no scientific logic that you can apply here whatsoever.

Good luck!

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  • "I have news for you - All faiths ARE blind - like totally. There are no proofs for emotional values. You don't reason out an emotion - there is no scientific logic that you can apply here whatsoever." If that's the case, then why do majority of Islamic scholars say that Allah does not accept blind faith? Why do majority of Islamic scholars say that belief in Allah and His messenger requires ration and basis?
    – user16329
    Commented Dec 11, 2016 at 18:48
  • Congratulations, you found a contradiction.
    – novice
    Commented Dec 11, 2016 at 19:16
  • What do you mean? Do you disagree with the scholars?
    – user16329
    Commented Dec 11, 2016 at 21:23
  • @curiosity I believe what I said is very crystal clear.
    – novice
    Commented Dec 11, 2016 at 21:28
  • Well, judging by your answer and your first comment, it seems that you do disagree with scholars. But are you a muslim?
    – user16329
    Commented Dec 11, 2016 at 21:42

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