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Looking at the list of the world's ten oldest surviving human constructed buildings, many are in Europe while the oldest building in what (with a generous interpretation of the concept) could be called the Fertile Crescent (FC) is at place 21, and 1650 years younger than the oldest entry on the list. There is even an American entry on the list above (at position 11) the first FC entry

Why is this odd? Let me quote another Wikipedia page: The region [FC] has been called the "cradle of civilization", because it is where settled farming first began to emerge as people started the process of clearance and modification of natural vegetation in order to grow newly domesticated plants as crops. Early human civilizations such as Sumer flourished as a result.

Civilizations, that could construct complex buildings, cities and similar appeared in this area several millenniums before they appeared in Europe and even if it might have been hunter-gather stone age cultures that built several of the European constructions on the list, similar stone age cultures existed in the FC tens of thousands of years before they did in Europe.

Furthermore, generally the FC is arid and dry compared to France and other parts of Europe where you can find old buildings (admittedly, most of these buildings are constructed using rocks which isn't very affected by weather but, ceteris paribus, the FC should be more favourable for preserving buildings).

Finally, according to Wikipedia the population density of the Middle East (as an approximation of the FC) is around 50 people/km2 while France and Western/Southern Europe is around 100/km2 so "wear-and-tear" due to high population doesn't speak to the FC's "advantage" either.

I haven't looked into war or migration but intuitively I don't think the FC are significantly worse of than Europe in these respects.

Considering all this, the oldest buildings "should" be found in the FC rather than in Europe. Why isn't this so?

(Compare to how it looks "internally" in Europe: the oldest buildings are approximately in the locations that have been populated for the longest time while e.g., the oldest buildings in Northern Europe, that became populated far later than France, are much younger, which makes a lot of sense!).

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    – MCW
    Commented Jul 16, 2019 at 16:31
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    Not convinced that the premise is true. Göbekli Tepe in Southern Turkey within the Fertile Crescent, for example, is the oldest non-residential structure in the world. The list also has many important omissions.
    – ohwilleke
    Commented Jul 18, 2019 at 21:11
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    Re "the oldest buildings are approximately in the locations that have been populated for the longest time while": This is blatantly and obviously false. All of Europe, from the tundra and fjords of northern Scandinavia to the Balearic isles, has been populated for far longer than any known histories or structures in the Fertile Crescent. It's well established that Europe was populated by Neanderthals going back tens of thousands of years, and that modern (Cro-Magnon) man moved in between 35 and 30 thousand years ago, before the last Ice Age ended.. Commented Feb 9, 2021 at 1:08
  • During the pre neolithic people didn't build, or at least not anything more significant.
    – d-b
    Commented Feb 9, 2021 at 15:22
  • Oldest surviving buildings.
    – RedSonja
    Commented Apr 26, 2022 at 9:25

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If you look at the details of the oldest buildings on your list, all of them are built from fieldstone or minimally-shaped quarried stone. Further, the building materials were either found on-site or transported a relatively short distance.

Most of the Fertile Crescent, and particularly Mesopotamia, does not have access to these building materials. Instead, the primary building material was mud brick, with limited use of wood. Even in a dry climate, this doesn't last very long without maintenance, and over the past ten millennia or so, they've collapsed to form a distinctive type of hill called a tell.

The Fertile Crescent buildings aren't found on List of oldest known surviving buildings, they're found on List of tells.

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Actually, some of the oldest known man-made structures are in the Fertile Crescent (FC). The list in your question purposefully excludes sites like Göbekli Tepe, Tell es-Sultan, and Tell Qaramel, each in the FC, on the basis that they're not "recognizable standing buildings".

As such there's inherent bias in the source you cite to exclude sites that have either been stripped down to their foundations as they got used as quarries (see user2414208's answer) or destroyed due to disrepair and erosion, like when the roof fails and lets rain do its thing, or by natural disasters like earthquakes, floods, wildfires, and so forth.

Geography, climate, local building materials (think mud bricks), and history also all play a role in what gets to stay around and what doesn't.

Take the ruins in Malta as an example. They had been covered by dirt for countless years until re-discovered. The climate in Malta is relatively warm and dry, with very little rain. And as if to give a sense of how fast the stuff erodes just to answer your question, since the ruins got unearthed they've been deteriorating so fast that they ended up covering them to protect them.

By contrast, picture some abandoned structures that have yet to be discovered somewhere on the banks of the Euphrates or of the Tigris. It would have been flooded a bunch of times and endured a few earthquakes, both of which minimize its odds of still being around today. If it was built early enough near the estuary it might even be underwater. And then there's the fact that, in contrast with places in Western Europe, there hasn't yet been a long and well funded tradition of excavating right left and center to find out what's underground.

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    There is a multitude of biases all stemming from the definitions used in the src. The three words you cite aren't even all & what WP admits as "consciously omits". But very important would be the additional mention of indeed material. No that much quarries in Mesopotamia proper + You just don't recycle mudbrick… Commented Jul 16, 2019 at 20:21
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    roadsandkingdoms.com/2018/the-mud-mosque-of-mali Commented Jul 16, 2019 at 20:36
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    @LangLangC: it's a miracle that the mosque survived for nearly six centuries before crumbling. :D Commented Jul 16, 2019 at 20:40
  • I am most intrigued by the last paragraph. We don't know what we don't have; there could be big stuff there (in the Persian Gulf) buried by the encroaching sea.
    – gktscrk
    Commented Apr 20, 2022 at 5:58
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It's not just Europe but even narrower. You'll notice the top 3 listed are all in France. Of the rest of the top 10, 4 are in the British Isles.

I think Mark has about half of the answer: These structures are over 5 thousand years old. Human-made materials have trouble lasting that long, so the very nature of the question privileges areas with lots of available stone to work with for building materials.

One other thing not often thought about is labor. Lifting that much stone is not going to be a one-man passion project. It requires a large organized (and probably specialized) labor force. In other words, it really requires a Neolithic society.

Also, if you look closely at their conditions, they define "building" to exclude unenclosed structures like dolmen. That's probably reasonable. I don't consider a gazebo or a port-cochere to be a proper building either. However, dolmen and the earliest French "buildings" were made to serve the same purpose: they are tombs. Its a lot more useful for your visitors to enclose a tomb in France, where it can get cold and windy a lot of the year, than in India, where keeping cool in the summer is more of a problem. So the definition of building used naturally privileges structures in cold climates.

So putting this all together, the ideal locale for finding the oldest buildings would be a cold-climate Neolithic area with lots of stone. So let's look at the early centers and spread of Neolithic technology:

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Where's the furthest north reached by the early Neolithic radiations? Europe. So why do they tend to have the oldest stone buildings? Probably because they needed them the most.

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  • But even if France might be stonier that the Middle East, ME is still so large that there are plenty of places with stones. Turkey and Iran has mountain ranges that reach several thousand meters (UK doesn't).
    – d-b
    Commented Jul 18, 2019 at 15:21
  • Do you really mean "furthest from the Equator" (or perhaps "highest absolute latitude") rather than "furthest north" in the last paragraph? Commented Jul 18, 2019 at 15:24
  • @d-b - I'd encourage you to go look at the pictures for some the stones used in those dolmen (I just added a link in the answer). Those top stones are huge. Much bigger than say a quarried pyramid block. This is on the order of the largest Easter Island Moei, estimates for the moving of which range in the realm of meters per day. None of those are found more than about 15,000 meters (9 miles) from the quarry. I can't imagine moving them around for hundreds of miles.
    – T.E.D.
    Commented Jul 18, 2019 at 15:50
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    It's tempting to say the list's definition almost requires a megalithic society? Commented Jul 18, 2019 at 16:01
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    @T.E.D. There can be a bias here, too: if a structure built out of huge stones, later it is much easier recognized as man-made, even if it is collapsed, than if it was constructed from small stones.
    – Greg
    Commented Feb 8, 2021 at 22:19
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Civilisations not only build buildings, but destroy and reuse them. Many ruins were effectively used as quarries by local people and stones, e.g. bricks from Roman buildings ended up in an early medieval church, then in a late medieval fortress, then in a noble home (see here, only in Hungarian). Wikipedia also mentions how roman bricks were reused. I suppose the same happened with the oldest buildings in the Fertile Crescent - and actually lack of civilisation, lack of people around the (partially underground) building helps it to be keep undisturbed. After a few tens or hundreds of years, the building is forgotten, only to be rediscovered in the 19th or 20th century.

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In a word - bias (when unconscious) and deception (when done deliberately and consciously).

It’s the role of a professional historian to aim at the truth and to see through bias/deception in archives and weigh up the evidence accordingly.

That you haven’t first examined the bona fides of whoever has written the article on the ten most oldest buildings would be a surprising lapse in a professional historian.

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How about a little different angle: local culture and tradition of "digging". While technically true that a building can stand for thousands of years, even if they do, generally they do in an unrecognizable form. Without a conscious effort to find, many of these buildings are lost.

Most native American cities are disappeared under the jungle in a half millennia. They are found only because there is a wide-scale search after them. Remains of Troy were in the ground for long, and we know its location only because the Calverts and others were digging there for decades. In short, low population density is not necessarily good for finding old buildings, neither local cultures that may be less interested in digging up the past.

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Since you mention a en.wikipedia.org article, also consider Eurocentrism and, in particular, Anglo-centrism.

These bias are something many people don't like to consider but the English speaking bias is very real, and sure it shows in the wiki article you mention. The article has many important ommissions.

Your question should rather be: "Why are most of the world's oldest buildings in this English wiki article not in the Fertile Crescent?"

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  • If there are omissions in the article, it would be helpful to indicate what they are. Better still would be to indicate it on the article's talk page so the omissions can be fixed.
    – Mark
    Commented Apr 20, 2022 at 21:41
  • Wikipedia is so big and disorganized that sometimes it provides (partial) answers to itself in unexpected ways. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
    – James
    Commented Apr 21, 2022 at 7:43
  • I'm not seeing any surviving enclosed buildings on that list older than about 2500 years. If there's a particular structure you're referring to, please point it out.
    – Mark
    Commented Apr 21, 2022 at 21:15

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