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Marc Douglas Berardo[edit]

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None of the sources here are ones I know to be reliable, and most appear to be small/local coverage. Nothing else here suggests an NBAND pass. One of his albums is already up for a separate AfD as well. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No Depression is reliable source. It is a highly respected music magazine. MarySue Twohy is program director at Sirius XM. Folk Dj is a international organization with a radio station It's part of Folk Alliance International. I believe he meets the criteria for having a single on national music chart if you consider Folk Alliance International https://www.folkradio.org/ Currently his new record is currently #24 on this chart. Two of his vidoes for singles were reviewed by Americana Highways, another respectable music publication although they are not listed in this article. The festivals that he won or was finalist are national competitions Lyle Lovett and Nanci Griffith were finalists at Kerrville. Most of the other references such as who he performed with were added to support a statement as being true. I agree it needs to be updated, but I not deleted. Performer Research (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Folk Alliance International would be considered a valid chart as I would assume it falls under SINGLEVENDOR. No Depression should be reliable and Americana Highways is as far as I know (bit surprised to see neither listed at RSMUSIC), but it's still a bit limited. This could be turned around though. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would also help if you could link to the Americana Highways articles and any others you bring up that aren't already present. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I am not sure if FAI would be a single vendor. I am not quite understanding the definition. I am looking further into it. I am in the process of updating this page. It will take me a few days since it has not been updated in quite awhile. If there are other suggestions on making this page more compliant, I welcome them. Thank you. Performer Research (talk) 00:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William J. Callahan[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Not all senior government officials are notable enough to justify a WP article. Mentions of Callahan in WP:RS are WP:TRIVIAL related to his WP:ROUTINE job duties and not WP:SIGCOV focused on Callahan that would establish his notability. Longhornsg (talk) 01:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Peter Crocker[edit]

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Disputed draftification. Fails WP:BIO. It is difficult with things so long ago. Even so, I am struggling to see what makes this industrious man notable in a Wikipedia sense. He appears to have had a decent, unexceptional life, like so many of his peers. WP:ROTM 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have personally done research on this topic as a professional in the field and can vouch for this page to be published, as is.

I’m confused as to what you mean by “unexceptional”. It’s as if you haven’t read the article, where it is mentioned that he was a postmaster, civil war veteran, trustee of Philippi School and city planner.

He was an early pioneer of Sarasota, Florida and is grouped in with his notable peers (A.B. Edwards, William Whitaker, and John Hamilton Gillespie) in various newspapers which I have provided citation to. The cemetery he established still exists and the church he built is on the historical register and owned by the historical society. Two other Wikipedia pages (Crocker cemetery and Crocker church) reference him as the founder. He deserves to have a page where readers of the other pages can find out who he was and what he did. When citizens of Sarasota go to learn more about their history it is important they have a resource (Wikipedia) to learn about this man and his contributions to the early community. A surplus of information is always better than a lack of it.

Your grounds for deletion, not "notable in Wikipedia sense," have no pertinent standing whatsoever. Htystudent (talk) 15:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to the source already listed within the article, here is some verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support the claim of notability. Though, viewing these may be an issue since the database requires a subscription. The links look identical, but they are all individual articles that mention Peter Crocker.

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Access Newspaper Archive Institutional Version | Viewer Htystudent (talk) 16:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Church article was sent back to draft and the cemetery looks rather non-notable as well. Oaktree b (talk) 23:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The church article, if you reviewed the sources, likely meets the notability guidelines and should be published. However, it has not been reviewed. Htystudent (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment both Crocker Cemetery and Crocker Church were created by the same editor as this article, in the past week. Their existence on-wiki does not demonstrate anything. Walsh90210 (talk) 15:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but were they moved to articles for deletion? That means they were significant enough to still exist, so this page should be as well. Unless you think Peter Crocker did not make the standard for notability, which I have just demonstrated that he likely does. I will include that information in this reply as well.
In addition to the multiple sources already listed within the article, here is some verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support the claim of notability. Though, viewing these may be an issue since the database requires a subscription. The links look identical, but they are all individual articles that mention Peter Crocker.

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Htystudent (talk) 16:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Htystudent I have left you advice on your user talk page, Most people find such advice of value. I hope you do as well. On a technical matter, I was not allowed under WP:DRAFTIFY to return this to draft once more. My two options since I was not going to edit it were to send it here, or to ignore it. I chose to send it here for community discussion.

Any editor, you included, is entitled to offer Draftification (please place it in 'bold at the start of the line, and on a new line). The deletion discussion is a direct result of your moving it to mainspace before it was ready. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I am not averse to the outcome of this discussion being to send back to draft for further development. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. I cannot view any of the newspaper links to validate whether they include WP:SIGCOV. I agree that Crocker seems like a WP:ROTM individual, but without being able to view the sources I cannot weigh in with a !vote either way. I have not been able to turn up any other appropriate sources to establish notability. If the page creator were to request draftification I would support that. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971 I have told them the same thing on their user talk page 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Served in the army and worked in a lighthouse, this is not notable. Likely better suited to a local history website, I'm not seeing notability for our standards here. Oaktree b (talk) 23:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I am able to view the Newspaper Archive sources through WP:TWL and I think most WP:XC users can as well (though I'm not positive). I don't plan on going through all of the newspaper links above, but I have looked over the ones in the article currently:

FN3 (December 1911) - Burb placed in the paper by his wife and an acquaintance expressing gratitude for kindness shown by others during his sickness and death.
FN5 (March 1958) - The region's "Oldest Native" is apparently the daughter of Peter Crocker, and he is briefly mentioned as an Albany native, soldier, and Key West lighthouse tender.
FN6 (March 1906) - One mention in the "County Commissioner's Proceedings" as being designated to mark out a road.
FN7 (January 1907) - One mention in a list of "other growers" in the region.
FN8 (August 1977) Mentioned as introducing coffee beans to the region

All told, this individual seems quite WP:ROTM. He is mentioned in the newspapers, sure, but these mentions are almost all plainly trivial; there is no WP:SIGCOV. AviationFreak💬 01:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: The Crockers; Church, cemetery bear family's name - Document - Gale Power Search Htystudent (talk) 16:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The daughter spoke in depth about her father, Peter Crocker, so I don't see how that cannot count. Htystudent (talk) 18:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have now been able to access the newspaper archive. I have not checked every archive relating to the subject, and I have taken into account the stye of the era - brevity. Even with this taken into account I only find passing mentions, public notices etc. WP:SIGCOV is not fulfilled. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The ones linked directly to the article discuss him more in length, as I mentioned. Htystudent (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Permian Investment Partners[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP. I cannot find any independent sources that covers the fund specifically and fulfils WP:SIRS. There are some sources about the founder or about it launching but not really anything in-depth. Imcdc Contact 10:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; the firm does not appear to be the subject of substantial press coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete minor hedge fund with no significant coverage in either the references or in searches. Brandon (talk) 07:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indus Capital Partners[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP. Current sources do not meet WP:SIRS. Can't seem to find anything independent that really covers the fund in-depth right now. Imcdc Contact 11:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; the firm does not appear to be the subject of substantial press coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I was also unable to find significant coverage of this fund. Brandon (talk) 07:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: fails WP:NCORP. Charlie (talk) 18:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete None of the sourcing that I can locate appears to meet GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 15:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michele Boldrin[edit]

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Most of the references are either his own website or YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc., so I have serious doubts about notability. He did get some coverage due to his opposition to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, but this looks pretty much like WP:INHERIT. HPfan4 (talk) 16:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: This is a PR item, but it suggests notability as a professorship at a major university [1], not sure if it passes PROF. Oaktree b (talk) 17:08, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I think the named professorship passes WP:NPROF C5. Moreover, the citation record [2] looks like an easy pass of WP:NPROF C1, even in a high citation field. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 21:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Easy pass of WP:Prof. Nom should study policy before making further nominations in this area. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Speedy Keep. Already noted, named professor at top research school is a speedy keep. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 20:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As noted above, passes multiple criteria of WP:PROF, including also WP:PROF#C8, as editor-in-chief of Research in Economics. Nsk92 (talk) 11:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets several criteria of WP:NPROF; the named professorship at WashU suffices by itself, as does the editorship. Qflib (talk) 18:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A.P. Gilfoyle & Co., L.P.[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP. Cannot find any independent sources that provide WP:SIGCOV on it. Imcdc Contact 03:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete - Zero evidence of notability. I speedied an article about the founder (or "founder"), Asuna Gilfoyle, in May. Gilfoyle was a character in Silicon Valley -- I think A.P. Gilfoyle & Co., L.P. is a joke. JSFarman (talk) 04:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found A.P. Gilfoyle & Co., L.P.'s Securities and Exchange Commission registration: https://adviserinfo.sec.gov/firm/summary/329643. I would disagree that it's a joke based on the registration. CacheOverride (talk) 10:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as it clearly fails WP:NCORP. - Amigao (talk) 23:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aquebogue Windmill[edit]

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Non-notable replica structure written in non-encyclopedic promotional tone. Fails the test of multiple secondary, independent, reliable sources. (The Bob Liepa article is the same article published in three different places, the Dempsey article does not mention this windmill at all, and the KDHamptons article is ineligible as tabloid coverage.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Coverage I find is strictly local, from the Suffolk Times about damage to the windmill. There seems to be no coverage outside of hyperlocal items, I'm not seeing notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge (selective) with Pantigo Windmill, of which this is a replica. Djflem (talk) 12:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As nominator I would accept a selective merge as an AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I removed the non-encyclopedic promotional tone. However, there is currently only one reliable source; plus the KDHamptons article. The latter is shurely tabloid, but here it's only used to proof that the mill can be rented, so tabloid coverage is sufficient. --Cyfal (talk) 17:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:SBST: "tabloid journalism is not significant coverage." That means there is insufficient evidence that this windmill passes the WP:GNG. No one's doubting the mill can be rented; we're doubting whether it meets the notability standards of this encyclopedia. I think the "merge" proposal is a good one, finding a home for the encyclopedic content in this article since it doesn't otherwise have standalone notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the Aquebogue Windmill is historically important and its meeting Wikipedia's rules for notability, so i guess keep will be the correct approach to this article. Yakov-kobi (talk) 01:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nike Indoor Nationals[edit]

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Reviewed during NPP. All 3 sources are from the event's official website, and I found no sources online that establish notability. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~ Keep. ~~I agree that there are no good sources, and that its near impossible to find a reliable source talking about the Nike Indoor Nationals.~~ Turns out there are some good sources talking about it. A lot of @Habst's sources are about the Nike Outdoor nationals, but they still provided a good number of articles about the Indoor Nationals. The sources aren't really fully about the event specifically, but I believe they're still fine articles to use. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, because the event meets WP:GNG as an important prep athletics championship. Responding to the concerns by @CanonNi and @Coulomb1, there's plenty of independent coverage from The Washington Post, New York Times, The Post-Standard, MileSplit, The Journal News, Bozeman Daily Chronicle The Cullman Times, and many more. --Habst (talk) 16:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of my links were for the indoor nationals – for the outdoor nationals, there's even more coverage from LetsRun.com, Track & Field News, The Santa-Cruz Sentinel, Eugene Register-Guard, MileSplit, etc. --Habst (talk) 16:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't know how this slipped past me. I have no problem with keeping this article then. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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