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April 12

Category:Women in the Canadian armed services

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Kbdank71 14:34, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Women in the Canadian armed services to Category:Women in the Canadian military

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Most of the other female military personnel categories are named like this, and some of these women were nurses, and hence not armed. Asarelah (talk) 23:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: The proper Canadian term is "armed services"; "military" (like "armed forces") is a bit of an Americanism. It is the services that are armed, not every single one the services' component individuals. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Reply:Then why is the parent category titled Category:Canadian military personnel rather than "Canadian armed services personnel? This category is the only subcat of the parent that uses the term "armed services". Its inconsistent. Asarelah (talk) 03:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge to parent, distinction by sex is not needed. OCAT. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Reply: Distinction by sex is needed, see Category:Women in war and its subcategory Category:Female military personnel. Other occupation categories have subcategories for women, especially ones in occupations that women tend to be underrepresented in. Asarelah (talk) 00:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per all siblings in Category:Female military personnel. Occuli (talk) 13:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Investment trusts of the United States

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Investment trusts are UK entities, not US entities. Although Real estate investment trusts and Unit Investment Trusts exist in the US, they are not generally referred to collectively as "investment trusts". "Investment company" would be the usual term in the US. Mhockey (talk) 21:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete but add the same parents to the sub-cat. Johnbod (talk) 01:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Creative Assembly games

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:40, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Creative Assembly games to Category:The Creative Assembly games

Nominator's rationale: Rename. The Creative Assembly is the companies name, not just Creative Assembly. QueenCake (talk) 20:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pedestrian malls

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The result of the discussion was: keep Based upon the related CFD, anyone can create a non-US named category to mirror this. Kbdank71 15:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Pedestrian malls to Category:Pedestrian zones

Nominator's rationale: As "Pedestrian mall" appears to be a more uniquely U.S. and Canadian name for these areas, should we consider renaming, per main article Pedestrian zone? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support per main article Pedestrian zone. (Pedestrian mall seems to have been a redirect for several years.) Occuli (talk) 14:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure that is wise at this point. Pedestrian zone, may be the main article, but its use is far from universal. Take a look at the incoming redirects; Pedestrian street, Pedestrian mall, Auto-free zones, Car-free, Carfree area, Carfree zone, Car-free area, Pedestrianized zone, Pedestrianized zone, Auto-free zone, Pedestrian Street, Pedestrianization, Pedestrianised street, Pedestrianisation, Pedestrian area, Pedestrianised, No-Car Zone, Pedestrian precinct, Car-free place, Car-free zone, Pedestrian-only use, Car-free urban area and Vehicle restricted zones. Given that list it shows that one name is clearly not universally accepted. This reply started as a comment, but I'm changing to Oppose given that the name may in fact represent local usage and should be left. The better solution here would be to leave Category:Pedestrian zones as the parent for the concept. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support for all the reasons Vegaswikian opposes. I see no evidence that the overall category of things covered at the Pedestrian zone article is generating such a huge number of article that they need to be subdivided into categories for pedestrian malls, auto-free zones, etc. If/when they are, then this category might need to be this specific. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yahoo gets over 1,000,000 hits on pedestrian mall. So clearly this term is very common and in use. I fail to see how doing away with a well used term, that may well be able to have a separate article, helps the encyclopedia. If this is a regional difference it needs to stay. Given the vast range of being car-free, to not sub categorize these seems counter productive. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Also in looking at those results, it appears that definition of :Pedestrian mall is codified in some places. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - please note the related discussion below. Grutness...wha? 00:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- What a bizarre coincidence. I had no idea. Should we put this discussion on hold, pending the prior discussion below...? --Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well that discussion was closed as a split and the consensus was built with the condition that local or county specific subcategories be allowed, specifically Category:Pedestrian malls and Category:Pedestrianised streets were given as examples. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:52, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Abington Township, Wayne County

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The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted by User:Skier Dude per WP:CSD#G7. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:39, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Categories created in error by PhotoCatBot Tim Pierce (talk) 12:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - all of these will be speedyable per C1 in about 3 days if they remain empty, which will occur before this CfD is set to end. VegaDark (talk) 16:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for pointing out that I should have requested a speedy deletion. Since they were created by my bot, I requested speedy for these under G7. Tim Pierce (talk) 03:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Shinkyoku Sōkai Polyphonica

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: With only two articles and no expectations of many more, this category is completely unnecessary. Farix (Talk) 11:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the onging prequel tv series, Shinkyoku Sōkai Polyphonica Crimson S, is a candidate for a third article. But otherwise, no, I don't see a need for this. Delete as too few to be useful. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as unnecessary. It can always be recreated later in the slim chance that it's actually needed at some point. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{(Dinoguy1000)} 21:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Small and unnecessary eponymous category for television programme. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 10:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Wow! Wow! erazy! --Richhoncho (talk) 10:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Small category that's unlikely to grow. — Σ xplicit 23:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Small unneeded category. QueenCake (talk) 17:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Songs from Bedknobs and Broomsticks

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The result of the discussion was: With no other comments, I'll consider this withdrawn. Kbdank71 14:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category serves no additional purpose as all the relevant songs are wikilinked in the main article, Bedknobs and Broomsticks. Please note there are a number of categories listing songs by individual musical, which I bring to discussions depending on the outcome of this Richhoncho (talk) 08:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Change of mind. On second thoughts, I think these work as a sub-category of Category:Songs from musicals. I'll leave the nomination here for further discussion in any event.--Richhoncho (talk) 08:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Vehicles introduced in 2010

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The result of the discussion was: Delete as empty. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 10:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Cant be introduced yet as 2009 now, future cat not needed yet Typ932 ^T·C 06:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – there is Category:2010 introductions; and Category:2010s automobiles is surprisingly well-populated. Occuli (talk) 14:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
comment model year 2010 usually comes out in 2009. 70.29.213.241 (talk) 05:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Users in the United Arab Emirates and Category:United Arab Emirates Wikipedians

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Kbdank71 14:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Merge both to Category:Wikipedians in the United Arab Emirates - All are dupicates of eachother, merge target is the only one that follows standard naming conventions. VegaDark (talk) 05:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. Duplicate (or is it triplicate?) categories and per naming conventions. — Σ xplicit 23:29, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Superkingt

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete - Individual user category, which we have unanimously deleted in the past. See here for related precedent. VegaDark (talk) 05:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Wikipedia readers will not use this structure, which only benefits this one user. Alansohn (talk) 22:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Functionaries of Stalinist regime in Poland 1939-1956

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Functionaries of the Stalinist regime in Poland. Kbdank71 14:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Functionaries of Stalinist regime in Poland 1939-1956 to Category:Functionaries of the Stalinist regime in Poland (1939–1956)

Nominator's rationale: Just a grammatical move, really. Biruitorul ^Talk 00:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the use of non-standard keyboard characters as a barrier to navigation. It is unclear why a date range needs to be in the category name at all. Certainly add the "the" to it. Otto4711 (talk) 02:18, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to just Category:Functionaries of the Stalinist regime in Poland. The years aren't necessary unless there was a second Stalinist regime in Poland that most people don't know about. Bearcat (talk) 04:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rename without the years, as suggested by Bearcat. The years in the current name are not consistent with the actual regime - see People's Republic of Poland - nor the Stalinist involvement in the preceding wartime period - see Soviet repressions of Polish citizens (1939–1946). AllyD (talk) 09:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I suppose the time period does cover the 'Stalinist regime': frm the Soviet invasion of Eestern Poland in 1939 to the Polish October of 1956. The current name may reflect what the category was intended to cover. Hmains (talk) 19:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rename Category:Polish government officials 1939-1956 - "functionaries" seems POV-ish. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The trouble is that these functionaries weren't constituting a government during much of this time-period - and the people who were constituting the Polish government-in-exile are not those intended to be covered by the category. AllyD (talk) 21:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Key Figures in Canadian Studies

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 01:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Subjective grouping that seems to already be serving as a weird, poorly-defined mix of academics who published scholarly work about Canada, academics who merely happen to be Canadian but didn't write about Canada to any notable degree, people who are predominantly writers of fiction and people who are historical figures within the study of Canada. People should never be categorized in such a subjective, awkward and POV way — and even if this were somehow to be kept, a rename-for-capitalization to "Key figures in Canadian studies" would be necessary. Bearcat (talk) 00:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as subject to endless uncertainty over the word "key". - Biruitorul ^Talk 00:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. On the hand, I'd be quite happy to see a Category:Canadian studies scholars or something, if it could be populated.Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for reasons put forward by Biruitorul David WC2 (talk) 18:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Agree with Shawn, but this can't just be renamed. Johnbod (talk) 01:35, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "key" is POV, SUBJ, and invitation to OR. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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