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I'm working on a homework problem and I need to solve for the base current Ib, and I know to do that I need to find the Thevenin equivalent at the transistor base. My professor solves for it as though R1 and R2 are parallel, but I don't understand why we can do that. Can anyone clarify what's going on? Thank you!

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Prof is doing a simplification, reducing two resistors to one. Not much of a simplification, but every bit helps:

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You should remember the rules for doing Thevenin equivalent circuits:

  • Short voltage sources, open current sources; then solve for Rb resistance seen at the "Vbase" port. In this case, Vcc is replaced with a short (in your mind, not in practice). You should see that this short results in R1 parallel with R2.
  • Assume Vbase has nothing connected outside the box... then VBB = voltage across R2 with Vcc active (in this case).

We usually measure all voltages with respect to GND. In this case, Vbase is at a positive potential (above GND) because Vcc is a positive voltage (above GND).

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  • \$\begingroup\$ That was my issue, I forgot that we replace Vcc with a short and it was causing issues in making that connection. Thank you! \$\endgroup\$
    – ahzired
    Commented Aug 16, 2021 at 2:13
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The context of this question is a DC analysis (analysis of the DC bias) as opposed to an small signal AC analysis.

Normally a DC-block capacitor would be in series with Vi, and since you are solving for a DC bias, you set all AC sources to zero and AC block capacitors become open circuits. Therefore, Vi would be open and floating.

Then instead of the base being driven by Vcc, R1, and R2 , it can be thought of as just being driven directly by a voltage source through an output impedance.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ I think my confusion comes from my understanding of parallel resistors, how can we treat them as parallel even though R1 connects to Vcc and R2 connects to ground? The way I understand it they both need to be connected to common wires, but that's not the case here. \$\endgroup\$
    – ahzired
    Commented Aug 16, 2021 at 1:41
  • \$\begingroup\$ What's happening is you're looking at the final solution, see that it is the same equation as parallel resistors and then trying to force your understanding of parallel resistors onto that. It's not actually parallel resistors. Math just describes things, not the interpretation of things. It's just that, in this case, the result of Thevnin just happens to resemble parallel resistors. Forget the final solution is equivalent to parallel resistors for a moment and analyze it from the point of Thevnin. Example: V=IR kind of looks like F=ma, but we both know they are not the same thing. \$\endgroup\$
    – DKNguyen
    Commented Aug 16, 2021 at 1:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ Until you prodded me I had actually forgotten it came from Thevnin. I proved it to myself a long time ago and now when I look at it I just think "oh, parallel" and write it down. \$\endgroup\$
    – DKNguyen
    Commented Aug 16, 2021 at 1:55
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yeah, my issue was a lack of understanding of Thevenin equivalents, I went back and brushed up and it makes more sense now. Thanks for the help! \$\endgroup\$
    – ahzired
    Commented Aug 16, 2021 at 1:59

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