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I have two ideas (manuscripts) that I am working on, both in the field of physics.

The first is theoretical, mathy and generalized. It is steered toward computer vision. Probably if finished, would be published in a multidisciplinary journal for physics and computer science.

The second is a mix between theoretical physics and experimental physics. It is steered toward astronomical physics only. It applies one of the results found in the first manuscript.

Is it ethical to submit these two papers separately? How can I cite the papers if they are both under peer review?

Note: The two manuscripts do not hold the same goal and do not have identical results. If I am going to put a percentage on how much 2# uses from 1#, I would put 20%. Further, if I would put a percentage on how much different 2# from 1#, I would put 90%.

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  • Perhaps better on Physics...
    – Solar Mike
    Commented Aug 8, 2019 at 15:10
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    I really don't see the problem with this question... tho I think there might be some related questions here already
    – penelope
    Commented Aug 8, 2019 at 15:17
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    Also, here you can take a look at some related questions: academia.stackexchange.com/q/88535/4249, academia.stackexchange.com/q/12514/4249, academia.stackexchange.com/q/81665/4249, academia.stackexchange.com/q/111402/4249; the general consensus is that it is okay, but to beware of "salami slicing" (publishing the smallest publishable chunks). You don't seem to be doing that, but rather have two quite different papers, so I agree with @Anyon and his answer, should be fine.
    – penelope
    Commented Aug 8, 2019 at 15:25
  • Do they need to be submitted at the same time? If not, you could submit the first, and once it's accepted, simply cite it as "in press" in your second.
    – anjama
    Commented Aug 9, 2019 at 1:10

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Is it ethical to submit these two papers separately?

Typically, yes. Having a methods papers and one (or more) applications paper isn't at all uncommon. It's sometimes appropriate to send them to the same journal (or same publisher), but that is more a matter of convenience than ethics. If you submit both to the same publisher, they might ask the same reviewer to referee both papers, for example. On the other hand, if one paper fits better with the scope of another journal, then sending it elsewhere is the appropriate choice. On the ethical side the only potential concern I see is that you might be perceived as "salami slicing", i.e. spreading a small amount of content into multiple papers, but if both papers are "meaty" enough then that shouldn't be an issue.

How can I cite the papers if they are both under peer review?

In the fields you mention, it is standard practice to put preprints on the arXiv. The best approach for you would likely be to do exactly that before submission to the journals, and then cite the preprints as appropriate.

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  • Thanks for the reply. About publishing in the same journal, I would like to note that it is nearly impossible. The first paper (physics and computer vision) would not fit in any astronomical physics journal. It is of no interest to astronomers (It is not the computer vision you think about when mentioning astronomy, pretty unrelated I would say). The application that I want to show in the second paper is (it relates the two ideas).--- Edit: on another note, maybe I should wait till the two manuscripts mature enough for a decision!
    – Phylosopher
    Commented Aug 8, 2019 at 15:40
  • @Phylosopher In that case submitting to different journals is absolutely appropriate. But yes, waiting for the ideas and results to mature before committing sounds like a good move.
    – Anyon
    Commented Aug 8, 2019 at 15:55
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Yes, it's fine, but you should tell the editors of both journals that there is a second manuscript. It is always expected and better to disclose that fact than to face complaints later.

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