Talk:Google Pixel

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Moved to Talk:Pixel (1st generation) § Requested move 4 August 2020

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Hey, I'm just realizing why we aren't at least stating that Pixel 6 and 6 Pro are announced with details pending? – The Grid (talk) 14:30, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That wasn't an announcement, that was merely a preview/teaser. Google has also confirmed that the 5a is happening, yet that isn't included here. InfiniteNexus (talk) 14:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the Pixel 4 wasn't added to this article until after the launch event date had been announced (diff) in late September, despite Google releasing that official teaser image and video months earlier. InfiniteNexus (talk) 14:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)I understand that but Google has confirmed its existence on their official social media and in the store [1]. It's just that could prevent the back and forth edit war or maybe we can add an invisible comment noting the devices won't be added until the details are officially listed? – The Grid (talk) 14:50, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I already did that. InfiniteNexus (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm torn on how much we should trust in this recent article from Android Authority, which supposedly outlines Google's entire roadmap for the Pixel series through 2025. In the past, I've generally viewed their articles on factual news (i.e. widely reported facts) and reviews as marginally reliable, but I've never had to use their original reporting until now. Pinging @The Grid, Mliu92, and Ghostofakina for thoughts. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:28, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The details seem credible (eg the ‘’lynx’’ code names) but these will probably be verified by more reliable sources as the release dates approach — having also edited automobile articles, usually there isn’t an article prior to release (or a preview concept), so it would be premature to create a Pixel 7a or Fold article. Cheers. Mliu92 (talk) 19:46, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

True, I wasn't thinking of creating articles prematurely, I was more thinking we could add text such as "Google reportedly intends to launch _____ in _____" to existing articles, i.e. Pixel 7a info on the Pixel 7 article, future Tensor info on the Tensor article, etc. InfiniteNexus (talk) 20:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CRYSTAL would still apply (and WP:LEAKS is a nice guideline). Google will most likely not confirm this information. It's a bit perplexing on Google because they even keep detailed interviews for their Pixel Superfans as confidential information which prevents some actual insight into these products. If it seems important to mention, we might have to say something like "Android Authority published a leak of Google's roadmap for the Pixel series through 2025 which includes mentions of x, y, and z." – The Grid (talk) 18:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm familiar with WP's guidelines on leaks, but I wanted to know whether others believe Android Authority is a reliable source for original reporting. So far, I haven't really gotten a straight answer. Apologies if I wasn't being clear on what I was asking. InfiniteNexus (talk) 21:35, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I've tried to avoid using sites like Android Authority for primary sources. While it might be a good source of information, I would not trust it entirely without further confirmation from other sources. Additionally, the leak is said to be from an anonymous source. Ghostofakina (talk) 00:07, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. I hate to say that I don't hold journalism about phones in a high place because their articles are usually just restating the primary source along with their previous related articles to help generate clicks. Here's an interesting thought for 2023: get some Android-related sources discussed at WP:RSP. The Verge and Ars Technica have been staples of RS but I think Android Authority and Android Police perhaps need to be evaluated. – The Grid (talk) 19:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I guess I'll hold off adding this information until more RS's corroborate the report. Regarding The Grid's RSP suggestion, I somewhat doubt editors there are familiar with these low-caliber sources that solely focus on a niche topic, so they probably wouldn't be helpful. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:50, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm too lazy to fix Jippycats (talk) 22:43, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand what the "lifespan" of the phones represents. I expected it to be either the release date to discontinued date, or perhaps release date to end of support?

Unless I'm really bad at math, neither of those add up for any row.

How is the lifespan figure arrived at? 51.148.133.36 (talk) 08:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lifespan is the duration from release date to the end of the support period (EOS = no more software updates).

It should be correct now. RM12 (talk) 13:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Details are out. Chidedneck (talk) 05:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, I'll work on putting in the specs soon. LostInInfinity (talk) 16:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RM12, just because it does not clearly state support is no longer offered does not mean support is still active for the devices

Google advertised 3 years for the devices. They no longer get monthly updates. To interpret anything beyond those statements is making your own interpretation. It's been like that before they grouped 3a XL to say it no longer gets support. – The Grid (talk) 17:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Google advertises a minimum of 3 years for the devices. And I know myself that they don't get regular updates anymore and it's clearly stated when the phones got their last update, I can read the table myself. I don't have to interpret anything I just state the facts that Google provides in official support documents.

How do you back up your interpretation that support must have ended because they don't get monthly updates anymore? "just because it does not clearly state support is no longer offered does not mean support is still active for the devices" is an interpretation, citing an official support document unchanged is not.

The first gen Chromecast didn't get updated for two years and then received a final update and Google officially ended support after that and changed the support pages so not getting regular updates is no proof that support has ended.

Maybe you should reevaluate your definition of "interpretation". RM12 (talk) 08:42, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is another thing you misunderstand. I quote you "technically all devices can receive critical risk security updates after their EOL."[1] That may be true in some cases but can't be generalized. When Microsoft ends support (EOL) for Windows versions they don't get any updates even if a major security flaw is discovered the day after. Apple on the other hand officially supports iPhones for 5 years (EOL) but generally their phones get irregular updates for much longer so there is no clear definition of EOL and therefore we have to go by the word of the specific company and not cherry pick interpretations from different sources. RM12 (talk) 09:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One look at the Factory Images for the devices in question (4, 4a, and 5) shows they are no longer getting updates - 4 was February 2023, 4a was November 2023, and 5 was February 2024. Here's an older version of the page with Internet Archive before 3a: [2] but I see in the past they actually stated "No guaranteed Android version updates after" and "No guaranteed security updates after" with the tables. What is "Extended Support" with Google? What extended support does 4, 4a, and 5 have right now? – The Grid (talk) 15:42, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RM12 I'm still awaiting an answer here. What does extended support mean at all? – The Grid (talk) 13:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]