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Executive Vice President for Defense Programs, JA Green and Company

Talk, talk, talk! The 31 number is not anchored on any firm operational requirement. That number was plucked out of thin air and was based on how many amphibious platforms actually existed in 2022. 31 will fail to provide the platforms necessary to provide the nation a 3.0 ARG/MEU global presence, that means two ARG/MEUs always operating in the INDOPACOM AOR and one ARG/MEU shared between EUCOM and CENTCOM. To do that the nation will require 40 platforms 12 LHA/LHD “big deck” amphibious ships with well decks, 26 LPD FLT I AND II amphibious ships and the the repurposing of the two America class LHAs without welldecks as replacements for the aging and legacy Mt Whitney and Blue Ridge LCCs. To get there we should continue to use multi-year procurement on ships that have stable designs and proven delivery timelines. Only then will the nation’s investment in amphibious shipping maximize the potential of the Marine Corps as the nations premier maritime crisis response force limiting crisis and contributing towards global deterrence.

Report to Congress on U.S. Amphibious Warship Programs - USNI News

Report to Congress on U.S. Amphibious Warship Programs - USNI News

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Ben Connable

Research Leader, Consultant, Professor @ benconnable.com

2mo

“Visions of a massed naval armada nine nautical miles off-shore in the South China Sea preparing to launch the landing force in swarms of ACVs, LCUs, and LCACs are impracticable and unreasonable.” - CMC Planning Guidance 2019, which also called for sustained large-platform ship building. Yes, the Navy is at fault, as is Congress, but it’s hard to sell multi-billion dollar ship buys while sending mixed messages about the value of those ships and the rationale for their use. If massed forcible entry is not viable, and Marines are not land-war fighters (“not America’s second land army”) why have big decks to put lots of Marines ashore? First rule of budgetary fight club is have a clear value proposition for the purchase you have requested.

Norm Cooling

Executive Consultant | Strategic Planner | Board Director

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This is absolutely right. For decades we have allowed our persistent, global, maritime crisis response assets to atrophy. This includes amphibious ships, maritime prepositioned shipping, ship maintenance facilities, and more. We are now beginning to pay the price of this folly by being far less capable of influencing and containing regional crises. As much as the elite intellectual "national security professionals" in DC would like to find new, tech-centric means of addressing regional crises, the nature of human conflict often requires a physical force presence. We cannot force design our way around that.

How can 40 Marine Corps amphibious ships be quickly built, delivered and operational, at relatively low cost? The answer is to build catamarans out of concrete using 3D printing at American shipyards. A study by Decision Sciences Corp of Philadelphia approved by the Secretary of the Navy and Chief of Naval Operations in 1969 advocated a Sea-based Expeditionary Force (SEF) comprised of 40 deployed expeditionary ships "visualized as catamarans." This important study said: "If support manpower can be reduced significantly in future limited wars, the overall commitment of resources can be reduced significantly..." "The sea-based expeditionary forces could arrive in the combat area logistic base structure to conduct sustained operations. to a level comparable with that employed in South Vietnam without time loss for buildup, without expensive crash construction programs, without the logistic logjams and without exposing the logistic base structure to combat threats on land...” "Although all the ships of the SEF are visualized as catamarans they would differ in size and function. All would be relatively simple in construction..." L. Edgar Prina The Next Time We Have a Vietnam, News Tribune, Tacoma, Washington, 17 Aug 1969, p. 17

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Whether 31 or 40, the operational availability needs to increase and be more predictable. Investing in new builds is only half the solution, we also need to ensure the maintenance availability, especially mid-life modifications and resets are resourced adequately to remain on time.

Ernest Leep 🇺🇸🇮🇱

Retired Marine Engineer at MEBA Dist 1-PCD (AFL-CIO)

2mo

Why would we want to go through all the trouble of converting an LHA to a LCC? Seems like a terrible waste when a commercial ship could be procured and converted? Indeed our two big hospital ships are repurposed San Clemente Class oil tankers.

Constant "CP" Craig

Retired professor at Colorado Technical University

2mo

An absolute Yes. The reality is 50 amphips. Adding back a updated Newport class LST might be worth considering. Lots of capability in the platform. Regards

William Collins

Attorney at Law - Advisor, Counsel and Lecturer on National Security Law, International Public Law, Defense, foreign policy, and legislative process.

2mo

Spot on Genral, as usual! This goal will require a major lobbying effort. most certainly directed at Congress and industry, but also at the think tanks and media for their support with independent academic and policy papers and articles advocating this need. This creates "surround sound" that does not just sound like the Marine Corps band tuning up again and everyone else tuning out. What I think we need is an "independent" Krulak-esq "Chowder Society" working their connections on and off the Hill to advocate for what the Marine Corps needs but can't seem to ask for itself. Buzz needs to be created but HQMC seems to be all out of bees. So an Independent or provisional Chowder Society to advocate for the things the Corps' leadership can't seem to bring itself to request and at times seems to be actively lobbying against. As you well know there are many of us retired and veteran Marines with Hill and policy experience who are be more than willing to sign up to be a part of this fight for our Corps and for our Nation.

Mark Gawrys

Constructor, designer, GM-concept,

2mo

I am in favour of a return to the concept of ships made of modified ice. There is water all around, compressed carbon dioxide is at the bottom of the sea, and the structure can be modified and repaired at will. I've even given some solutions on this topic. Imagine a submarine that builds an underwater airport for drones and planes to land and take off and that platform surfaces at the right moment. Small landing craft can be built on site, before landing on the beach.

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General, you've offered a solution to one of America's most severe strategic vulnerabilities. Let's hope that the NCA and Congress take note. We got into this predicament by too long fixating on missions of armies of occupation and counterinsurgency. There is hope, if the current Naval leadership work to manifest the 2023 National Defense Industrial Strategy.

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