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Questions involving existing works that are about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This orphan question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason it was closed here is the technicality that we can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

I answered in the comments.

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I don't understand this sentence..."
(knowledge of idioms, vocabulary and punctuation is required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

The question is orphaned because of our technicality against discussing pre-existing text.

Literature Exchange seems to be more about discussing existing works as a whole, but presumably a question can be posed to Literature if it is more a 'fan' discussion and Writing if it is more a 'craft' discussion.

Questions involving existing works that are about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This orphan question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason it was closed here is the technicality that we can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

I answered in the comments.

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I don't understand this sentence..."
(knowledge of idioms, vocabulary and punctuation is required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

Questions involving existing works that are about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This orphan question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason it was closed here is the technicality that we can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

I answered in the comments.

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I don't understand this sentence..."
(knowledge of idioms, vocabulary and punctuation is required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

The question is orphaned because of our technicality against discussing pre-existing text.

Literature Exchange seems to be more about discussing existing works as a whole, but presumably a question can be posed to Literature if it is more a 'fan' discussion and Writing if it is more a 'craft' discussion.

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Questions involving existing works that are about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This orphan question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason it was closed here is the technicality that we can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

I answered in the comments.

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I don't understand this sentence..."
(knowledge of idioms, vocabulary and punctuation is required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

Questions involving existing works that are about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason it was closed here is the technicality that we can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I don't understand this sentence..."
(knowledge of idioms, vocabulary and punctuation is required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

Questions involving existing works that are about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This orphan question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason it was closed here is the technicality that we can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

I answered in the comments.

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I don't understand this sentence..."
(knowledge of idioms, vocabulary and punctuation is required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

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Questions involving existing works that are OBVIOUSLY about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason givenit was closed here is the technicality that published text is off-topicwe can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

It's frustrating that 1 mod can unilaterally close or banish a question to an incorrect exchange, where it is voted-to-close for being off-topic. Those mods all need to communicate and learn why their decision was wrong. In this instance it happened multiple-times, with still no consensus where the question belongs.

Some of the problem seems to stem from a very narrow interpretation of the question, "What is the difference in meaning?" – interpreted as "I don't understand the words," instead of "What was the author's intent?" Nevertheless give the OP some credit. The context of the question should be "self-evident".

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I need help withdon't understand this vocabulary or grammarsentence..."

  
(Dude, did u even look in teh dictionary??? – omgknowledge of idioms, just please don't. If you think thatvocabulary and punctuation is a helpful comment, you are wrong.required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"

  
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"

  
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"

  
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

Questions involving existing works that are OBVIOUSLY about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason given here is the technicality that published text is off-topic:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

It's frustrating that 1 mod can unilaterally close or banish a question to an incorrect exchange, where it is voted-to-close for being off-topic. Those mods all need to communicate and learn why their decision was wrong. In this instance it happened multiple-times, with still no consensus where the question belongs.

Some of the problem seems to stem from a very narrow interpretation of the question, "What is the difference in meaning?" – interpreted as "I don't understand the words," instead of "What was the author's intent?" Nevertheless give the OP some credit. The context of the question should be "self-evident".

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I need help with this vocabulary or grammar..."

 (Dude, did u even look in teh dictionary??? – omg, just please don't. If you think that is a helpful comment, you are wrong.)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?"

 (knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?"

 (knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?"

 (Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

Questions involving existing works that are about the craft of writing

Questions about writing should not be closed simply because it quotes another author, or the work has been previously published. The question is still about the craft of writing.

This question – which should be here on Writing because it is about a specific edit choice made by an author – has been rebuffed on THREE exchanges. The reason it was closed here is the technicality that we can't discuss existing text:

  1. https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/61323/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  2. https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/21810/what-is-the-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable
  3. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/309233/what-is-the-stylistic-difference-between-self-evident-and-sacred-and-undeniable

Examples how this question might belong to other exchanges:

ELL: "I don't understand this sentence..." 
(knowledge of idioms, vocabulary and punctuation is required to answer)

Literature: "Which holds up better today, the Declaration of Independence or The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen…?" 
(knowledge of the full work(s) is required to answer)

History: "Were people even aware of the Declaration of Independence in 1777…?" 
(knowledge of history is required to answer)

Writing: "Why is the revised version of this sentence more persuasive than the author's first draft…?" 
(Knowledge of the craft of writing is required to answer)

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