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May 24 at 9:56 vote accept sushi
May 24 at 8:22 comment added NotThatGuy @SeanDuggan "many companies now have a policy that the references can't do much more than indicate whether you worked for the company" - if someone is asked as a representative of the company (e.g. if they call HR), sure. But I'm skeptical whether this applies if you give someone as a personal reference.
May 24 at 7:53 comment added Fe2O3 There's something in the air, and it doesn't smell sweet. Too much missing context. Are you working now? Is the ref to be dropped your current job? Is the reference from a period 2 years ago or 12 years ago? Why would a "ref from 10 years ago" suddenly go sour? Roughly how many references do you think you need? How many do you have (incl-/excl-uding the problematic one)? How relevant is the ref to be dropped to the position you are interviewing for? ... The 'B' string is usually made up of weaker players... Too many unknowns... There's something in the air, and it doesn't smell sweet.
May 23 at 14:00 comment added Heinzi @Barmar: Yeah, but if you make a mistake while singing, you get sued. In countries like Austria and Germany, which have strong employee protection laws, reference letters have effectively become completely useless, since every kind of assessment that is not absolute and unrealistic praise can (and will!) get you in legal trouble.
May 22 at 15:26 comment added Sean Duggan @Barmar: The process has changed, but when I was actively applying a decade or two ago, references were standard on most applications (and most resumes had standard boilerplate of "References available upon request" that I finally removed when I realized how meaningless it was).
May 22 at 15:10 comment added Barmar It's been a while since I've applied for a job, but references were generally provided pretty late in the process, after the interview if the company is still interested. How did this company get your references already?
May 22 at 15:07 comment added Barmar @SeanDuggan Couldn't that information be provided by the HR Dept of the former companies? The point of human references is to sing your praises.
May 22 at 12:20 comment added Sean Duggan For what it's worth, if you're in the United States, many companies now have a policy that the references can't do much more than indicate whether you worked for the company, and whether you were fired, laid off, or left on your own. Anything more is opening them up to legal liability. Not that that always stops people from gossiping, but it has created a strong incentive.
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