Timeline for Feeling left out from business trip
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| Dec 24, 2018 at 0:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackWorkplace/status/1076991046150586368 | ||
| Dec 19, 2018 at 13:11 | vote | accept | UserAnon | ||
| Dec 18, 2018 at 16:32 | comment | added | Wesley Long | B is "confronting" you about travel decisions after only being there 6 weeks? You've got bigger problems brewing. You need to start looking for Bv2. | |
| Dec 18, 2018 at 14:53 | answer | added | David Thornley | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 17, 2018 at 20:15 | comment | added | David Thornley | @dwizum I'm going to guess that B is aware of the circumstances, not just that she's being left out of a trip. If she's able to fill a senior role, she's going to be good at figuring these things out. | |
| Dec 17, 2018 at 11:21 | comment | added | dwizum | @SkinnyJ - based on your comment back to me - it seems easy to understand why B feels left out. All they know is, there's a trip and they aren't going. Meanwhile, you have specific objectives. You can tie those to specific roles on your team. You have a budget limit. I wonder how B would feel if they knew those details, instead of simply knowing there's a trip and they're not going? | |
| Dec 17, 2018 at 9:33 | comment | added | Wilbert | Are you new to a leading role? This approach is just generating resentment on the part of B. For such a long trip, I feel it makes perfect sense to have the whole team be part of the exchange, not only for team building but also for networking, interconnecting etc. Especially since they are both developers, where the amount of implicit knowledge is generally much larger than in many other areas which makes face to face meetings even more beneficial. | |
| Dec 17, 2018 at 7:02 | comment | added | UserAnon | @Mołot No they were not | |
| Dec 17, 2018 at 7:00 | comment | added | Mołot | Were trips advertised to B as one of the perks he will be getting? | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 19:15 | answer | added | Lio Elbammalf | timeline score: 5 | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 18:46 | answer | added | BigMadAndy | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 16:23 | answer | added | mkennedy | timeline score: 12 | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 16:17 | comment | added | UserAnon | By the way, as a new joiner on this forum, I really appreciate this conversation and exchange of ideas | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 16:16 | comment | added | UserAnon | @mkennedy that is certainly an option. However, I also have work related to my other team that would do better in person, so the equation is not as clear-cut. Regardless, I don't think that my not going will change the formula on whether B's trip can justify the cost. | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 16:14 | comment | added | mkennedy | Do you have to go? Why can't you set up the meetings remotely, possibly with the help of a few people at headquarters? | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 16:06 | history | edited | UserAnon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 16, 2018 at 16:02 | comment | added | UserAnon | @dwizum A and I were discussing logistics and B overheard, although it was not being kept a secret. I did not discuss specific objectives with B, but because of the overlap between A and B at work, B could reasonably feel that they could accomplish similar objectives to A had they participated, or at least could put together a set of objectives that are in line with their role. At the moment, I don't see those objectives as justifying the cost, although that formula may be different later in the year. | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 15:51 | comment | added | dwizum | Under what context does B know about the trip? Who told them? Are they aware of the details in terms of the specific objectives? | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 15:38 | comment | added | Engineer2021 | Your call. Work isn’t a democracy. If he insists that he should be involved, then determine if it’s possible in some other way. If it’s cost related then explain that. Maybe only a few can go ? | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 15:07 | comment | added | UserAnon | @Brian you may be right. What then? | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 15:05 | comment | added | Engineer2021 | Probably best to have a Face to face to ascertain what is going on. I suspect B thinks he should have a bigger role | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 14:55 | history | edited | UserAnon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 16, 2018 at 14:54 | comment | added | UserAnon | @Brian B sent me an email saying "I wonder why A and C are planning to go and I am not. Just gives a bit of a bad feeling being left out." | |
| Dec 16, 2018 at 14:41 | comment | added | Engineer2021 | It seems apparent that B thinks they should be involved or is at least tangentially involved. Not sure if you are aware of any involvement by B at all. Confronted seems like a strong word. Did they simply ask why? I’d start by giving them a reason why you didn’t consider involving them. Maybe it’s because 90% of the team is going. Maybe they want to grow into a bigger role | |
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| Dec 16, 2018 at 12:05 | history | asked | UserAnon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |