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  • "those flying first and even business class have rarely shelled out the full fare from their own pockets" — to be fair, those flying in economy rarely shell out the full Y fare, which is usually three or four times the discount fare. Premium fares to and from LON are generally very expensive, but with careful routeing, judicious use of upgrade instruments, and importantly a keen eye for sales, I rarely pay more than twice the discount Y cost for J and thrice for F. Don't believe the headline fares for first class.
    – Calchas
    Commented Oct 26, 2016 at 21:15
  • @Calchas A friend made quite an astounding deal for first class seats for a large group of Engineers who had to go back and forth to Asia- not much more than the full economy fare for amazing service. He committed to a large block of tickets over a period of time. Commented Oct 26, 2016 at 21:18
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    Most airlines are not interested in offering corporate deals to anyone spending less than ~ $1 million a year. Your friend must be a very good negotiator. ;)
    – Calchas
    Commented Oct 26, 2016 at 21:20
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    Not sure the first paragraph is entirely correct. It certainly applies to business class. First is another world entirely, maybe some executives do it on the company's dime but the only people I personally know flying first do pay for it, they just don't care because they are very very rich indeed. It's the first I hear about engineers flying first.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Oct 26, 2016 at 23:37