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If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at Tallinn Airport, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also countries and regions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

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Further to the comment by NateNate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at Tallinn Airport, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also countries and regions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


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Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at Tallinn Airport, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also countries and regions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


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Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at http://www.tallinn-airport.ee/eng/Tallinn Airport, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also countries and regions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


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Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at http://www.tallinn-airport.ee/eng/, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also countries and regions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


Adding...

Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at Tallinn Airport, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also countries and regions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


Adding...

Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

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If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at http://www.tallinn-airport.ee/eng/, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also Nigeria (etc)countries and South Americaregions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


Adding...

Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at http://www.tallinn-airport.ee/eng/, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also Nigeria (etc) and South America are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


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Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

If you are at a land border and inadmissible in both directions, you'll be taken to a detention centre. In the scenario you described, most likely Viru. They will book you in and then go over your travel document(s) with a view to determining where you are admissible. They will contact the consulate where you have citizenship and let them know you are in custody.

Once they have determined the next steps, they will serve you with a removal order. If it happens in Russia, you'll go to the Мировой суд (local magistrate) and get a five year ban, you can also expect to get dunned for their expense. Estonia has a similar sanction, but it operates under the EEA judicial system.

Once the paperwork is complete, you'll be escorted to a removal centre. In Estonia, it would be at http://www.tallinn-airport.ee/eng/, and in Russia there's one at Sheremetyevo 2. In most cases, you'll be issued a one-way travel document and placed on the appropriate (civil) flight. Nobody gets stuck forever in a gulag. If the receiving country has no problems with you, the removing country will give your actual travel document to the airline staff and you'll get it back once the flight has cleared the removing country's air space.

I've been in the one at Sheremetyevo (on the representation side), the biggest concern they have is finding out the REAL reason you are in their country. Also, you need to really hope there were no crimes committed in the area where you were caught. I have no experience in Tallinn. Overall, it's comparable to detention anywhere; the biggest problem people face is the language barrier in the day-to-day world as their paperwork is getting sorted out. From end-to-end, the process would take a maximum of two weeks.

When you debrief people who have been removed, they invariably report that the conditions are civil, and the most harrowing part of the experience was the screwballs they encountered whilst in detention.

NOTE: your scenario takes place where there are clear land borders. If your scenario took place at a disputed border, like in Morocco, things could get exponentially more complex very quickly. This answer is scoped to stable countries only and the intervention occurs at a control point. If you are caught deeply inland in Russia, you will be in trouble. Also countries and regions not mentioned in this answer are out of scope.

Related: Airline policy when a passenger is refused entry in both departure and arrival countries


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Further to the comment by Nate (to whom thanks), depending upon how the control point is laid out, there may be a 'discussion' by the border guards over who has jurisdiction. My best guess is given in the first paragraph. BUT... For the scenario described, the OP should try to get taken into custody by the Russians (even if they have to run to the interior).

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