Timeline for US Citizen with dual nationality entering US on ESTA, what's the worst that can happen?
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| Dec 30, 2022 at 10:35 | comment | added | phoog | Oh right, because the traveler in this case is a US citizen, so the ESTA is not in fact necessary to cross the border, only (if the bus company requires it) for boarding the bus. I'd somehow forgotten about the dual citizenship aspect when I posted that comment. | |
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| Dec 29, 2022 at 22:54 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @phoog I don't know if bus operators now check that you have a valid ESTA. Previously when taking the bus from Vancouver to Seattle the documents check was very much cursory but this might've changed since October. I've updated my answer. | |
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| Dec 29, 2022 at 22:41 | comment | added | phoog | How is it that using certain bus operators would allow people to sidestep the new requirement to have a valid ESTA to cross the land border? | |
| Dec 27, 2022 at 13:34 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @newbie1001 it depends on the bus operator. But you could always do a one-way rental or use the Tijuana crossing which is easily accessible by public transit. | |
| Dec 27, 2022 at 11:31 | comment | added | newbie1001 | Thanks for this and enjoyed the extended chat. I was wondering now if things have changed since VWP members now need to get an ESTA to cross "Effective October 1, 2022, all Visa Waiver Program (VWP) travelers intending to enter the United States by land will be required to obtain an approved Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) prior to application for admission at land border ports of entry" help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1258?language=en_US. Seems like in order to get on a bus to travel to the border from say Montreal, I'd need to show an ESTA anyway? | |
| Dec 23, 2022 at 21:34 | comment | added | littleadv | Just to clarify that Jonathan agreed with me in the chat that there's a risk in this proposition. The OP may end up being stranded in CBP detention for prolonged periods of time or sent away back to the nearest consulate to prove his identity. As I have shown in the chat, there are multiple examples of ICE and CBP deporting or denying entry to US citizens, which include months and years of incarceration. So while Jonathan suggests to be "legally right", the OP would be better served with other suggestions to be "smart". | |
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| Dec 22, 2022 at 22:53 | history | answered | JonathanReez♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |