Timeline for Is a Dutch ID card still valid for travel to the UK after Brexit?
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| Aug 30, 2022 at 10:35 | comment | added | phoog | @Stef I don't know how an immigration officer determines whether someone presenting a national ID card is eligible to use it instead of a passport, but it's possible that there are ways to do so without requiring the presentation of an additional document, for example by querying a database of settlement scheme participants. | |
| Aug 30, 2022 at 9:57 | comment | added | Stef | "A Dutch national who resides in the UK through the settlement scheme can continue to use a Dutch national ID card to enter the UK." This sentence sounds a bit self-contradicting. Presumably the ID card is not sufficient in this case; at the very least, it should be accompanied by a second document attesting that the Dutch national does indeed reside in the UK through the settlement scheme. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 20:51 | comment | added | phoog | @AndrewRay of course. As I said, I included that for the sake of completeness, since the material I was quoting applies to more countries than just the Netherlands, but I figured it would be easier for readers to discount the irrelevant bullet point on their own than to wonder what had been removed and replaced by "..." or whatever else. And I didn't want to omit it silently because it would be inaccurate to quote something that seemed to enumerate all the applicable exceptions for EU/EEA/CH nationals but didn't in fact include them all. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 19:51 | comment | added | OpenAI was the last straw | You may consider me skeptical that somebody could use a Dutch ID to demonstrate that they were a Swiss national. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 18:31 | comment | added | phoog | @Traveller if you go by the proportion of EU/EEA/CH entries into the UK that are made under the EUSS (and other exceptions) it could be fairly small. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 17:49 | comment | added | Traveller | @BernhardDöbler Taking the UK population as approaching 68million, roughly 6million applications is not far off 10% of the entire population. Hard to see how that is not many | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 17:18 | comment | added | Willeke♦ | @phoog, with an ID card you needed to see an immigration officer even before Brexit and now even more so, as the automated system does only accept passports. And I also did not get stamps in my passport when I visited the UK last May, train Amsterdam London in, footpassenger on the Harwich Hook ferry back home. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 16:06 | comment | added | phoog | @BernhardDöbler it seems that there are roughly 6 million EUSS applications granted, of whom roughly 1/8 are third-country nationals. Whether something over 5 million is "not many" is both a matter of opinion and dependent upon context. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 15:46 | comment | added | Bernhard Döbler | is preserved after Brexit for certain people - not many | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 11:48 | comment | added | Tonny | @gerrit I just returned from a holiday visit to the UK last week. No stamp. Not when leaving in Calais (Channel Tunnel) and not at the ferry terminal in Harwich (we returned by ferry to Hoek van Holland). They just glanced briefly at our passports and we were through. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 11:06 | comment | added | phoog | @gerrit I think it would depend on whether the traveler uses an APC kiosk, but I have not been to the UK for several years, so I don't know for sure. From a legal standpoint, a Dutch national visiting the UK as a visa-free visitor is subject to the six-month limit and the prohibition against employment and recourse to public funds. As I understand it, kiosk users are subject to these restrictions by automatic operation of law whereas others have them stamped into their passports. But maybe the role of stamps has changed since I last looked into it a few years ago. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 10:56 | comment | added | gerrit | Do they stamp the passport? | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 10:33 | comment | added | phoog | @Tonny basically that's it, but even someone who lives in the UK having moved there after Brexit without using the EU settlement scheme (for example, with the same sort of work visa that any non-EU national would need) will need to use a passport. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 9:59 | vote | accept | Tonny | ||
| Aug 29, 2022 at 9:59 | comment | added | Tonny | That's clear enough. See unless you already live or work in the UK you need a passport. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 9:04 | history | edited | phoog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 29, 2022 at 8:55 | history | answered | phoog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |