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Jul 27, 2020 at 14:43 history edited Nean Der Thal CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jul 26, 2020 at 2:52 comment added Joshua Does that mean I can request truly hot water then?
Jul 26, 2020 at 1:55 comment added nanoman ... Your "lines of defence" reasoning could also be used to ban Wi-Fi, as I noted. Suppose it were economical and safety-approved to install a temperature-limited personal oven, cleaned between flights, at each business-class seat for passengers to warm their own food. In this hypothetical, the bomb triggering concern is not a reason to ban the ovens IMO. There are so many simpler ways open. Bad guy can even generate heat with common, legal personal items (it might not be legal to use them this way in-flight, but bad guy won't care about that!).
Jul 26, 2020 at 1:54 comment added nanoman I think this (security) is an important point of debate. Prohibiting something just because we might conceivably foil a bad guy is a recipe for doing more harm than good. I think the security argument in this case is weak (better are food safety and overburdening flight attendants). It's a tradeoff of how much innocent/beneficial activity is impacted. Would you outlaw maps because they could help a terrorist find a target? The UK essentially did this (until a court clarified the law's interpretation). ...
Jul 25, 2020 at 21:54 comment added user149408 @einpoklum There are extra regulations for cockpit crew members to prevent situations such as those in the movie Airplane!. This was mostly in response to an incident in 1975. I used to have more sources on that; as far as I remember from one of them, there are separate crew meals, although crew members can also choose a passenger meal, as long as cockpit crew members eat different meals prepared by different cooks.
Jul 25, 2020 at 21:13 comment added Nean Der Thal @nanoman the whole airline safety is built on the concept of multi lines of defences. We cannot rely on airport security, we have to assume that someone managed to out-smart it, and so on. That's the whole idea, everyone assumes that they are the last line of defence and act accordingly.
Jul 25, 2020 at 20:58 comment added nanoman @NeanDerThal I'm not saying the threat of a bomb is ridiculous; I'm saying the idea that a bad guy would base his design/plan on hoping to get a flight attendant to heat it, as opposed to simply having a trigger under the bad guy's direct control, is ridiculous.
Jul 25, 2020 at 20:37 comment added Nean Der Thal @nanoman that's not ridiculous, a bomb that is made from simple material is possible, an expert managed to buy the material from the duty free market, look it up in youtube.. It's never bad to be extra cautious.
Jul 25, 2020 at 20:14 comment added nanoman @usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ I think it's not really the difference between baby milk and a meal -- it's the difference in providing a substance for the passenger (a bath of hot water to warm the milk, then discarding the water) versus accepting a substance from the passenger into a sanitary environment like an oven that's used for airline-provided food.
Jul 25, 2020 at 20:08 comment added nanoman "is it a heat-activated bomb?" That's pretty ridiculous Bond-villain territory. If a passenger can smuggle a heat-activated bomb on board, they could also, more easily, have a push-button or timer-activated one. Should we ban in-flight Wi-Fi because someone could have a Wi-Fi-activated bomb?
Jul 25, 2020 at 2:51 vote accept Ski Mask
Jul 24, 2020 at 21:56 comment added Nean Der Thal @einpoklum yes, but sometimes they buy food from airports or bring their own from home, just like any passenger. Sometimes we just get bored from having the same choices for 3 or 4 months.
Jul 24, 2020 at 21:56 comment added usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ I had the same experience on a high speed train. Baby milk was GO, own meal was NO-GO. For the same health reason shown in the answer, as explained by the crew
Jul 24, 2020 at 21:39 comment added einpoklum Don't crewmembers typically eat the same meals the passengers get?
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Jul 24, 2020 at 18:31 comment added Harper - Reinstate Monica That kind of "we don't heat your food" policy is universal in every restaurant and cafeteria I've seen. You can get away with it in convenience store style operations where you're expected to microwave your own popcorn or hot pockets... but any place a server puts the food in the oven, forget it.
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