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I am not sure if this answers the question at all, or if it is just a generic rant. The statement in your last paragraph is wrong. The 'temporary' immigration checkpoints between Denmark, Sweden and Norway over the last few years require many citizens of those countries to obtain and carry passports, which they would not have needed to pass the borders under normal circumstances.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Commented Aug 20, 2018 at 13:32
"it is a bit pointless to show an ID card to prove that you do not have to show a passport": I think it's rather more accurate to say that showing the document, whether passport or ID card, to prove a right of free movement compromises the freedom of movement. That is, it would create a delay for EU citizens crossing internal borders. Additionally, your "not true" paragraph leaves out some other cases, for it is indeed possible for an EU citizen to be forbidden from entering an EU country, even if the possibility of such a ban is very limited.
– phoog
Commented Aug 20, 2018 at 14:45
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo, the EU says "Schengen EU countries have the possibility of adopting national rules obliging you to hold or carry papers and documents when you are present on their territory." I was under the impression that this is common and not the exception.
– o.m.
Commented Aug 20, 2018 at 15:55
@phoog, that may be semantics, but to me freedom to enter and freedom to enter without controls are distinct things. Before Schengen, my citizenship gave me freedom to enter EU states unless some narrow exceptions were invoked, but not the freedom to enter uncontrolled. One is a right under EU treaties, the other is a privilege granted for mutual benefit.
– o.m.
Commented Aug 20, 2018 at 15:59
At least in the Nordic countries (NO, SE, DK, FI, IS), which have implemented quite a fair share of the current or recent immigration checks, there are no mandatory official id cards and it is quite common that residents and citizens don't have any kind of official id. Free travel between the countries without id checks have been in effect since the 1950s, but now many people have been forced to obtain passports to be able to fulfill the immigration check requirements.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Commented Aug 20, 2018 at 16:17

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