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    $\begingroup$ Remember you need not only to carry those people, but also food, medical supplies, WATER, and a lot of other stuff for the 6 years that mission is going to take. $\endgroup$
    – jwenting
    Commented Aug 19, 2021 at 10:31
  • $\begingroup$ @jwenting um, IIRC the context Elon used suggested those were accounted for. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 19, 2021 at 11:02
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    $\begingroup$ They are only accounted for because of Starship's size. There's no way even one person would fit alongside with all the required supplies inside Dragon. It might be possible to get away with a rocket somewhat smaller than Starship if the crew was cut down to 4 or so (not smaller by a half though - air scrubbing, water purification system, moisture reclamation, spare parts etc for 4 people won't be much smaller than for 10.) And the workload to establish a sustainable base on Mars would be way too much for 4. $\endgroup$
    – SF.
    Commented Aug 19, 2021 at 13:30
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    $\begingroup$ Starship is so big because they scaled it DOWN a couple of times. Compared to previous proposals for interplanetary manned flights, the Starship is miniscule! $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 20, 2021 at 14:43
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    – called2voyage
    Commented Aug 22, 2021 at 1:29