Timeline for Can the US Part of ISS survive independent of the Russian?
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| Jul 2, 2023 at 21:36 | comment | added | AnarchoEngineer | I wonder whether it would be possible to use a european tug module as a temporary fix? | |
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| Feb 24, 2022 at 19:45 | comment | added | Matteo Ferla | 8 years on, escalating tensions with Russian due to the invasion of Ukraine have resulted in a NASA statement that there are no change of plans for the US/EU crew due to return on a Soyuz —Dragon CRS-24 returned in Jan and CRS-25 launches in May. The ICM according to comments in space.stackexchange.com/questions/22446/… may weigh about a metric ton, which is as much as a Tesla Roaster, and now that the Falcon Heavy has found it's feet would mean the US could launch it if I am not mistaken. However, the ISS is to be decommissioned in 2030... | |
| Mar 29, 2020 at 5:48 | comment | added | Moo | The SpaceX orientated comments here made me smile, 6 years on... | |
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| May 27, 2018 at 15:13 | comment | added | peterh | @called2voyage If the Falcons will be able to launch supply and crew shift to the ISS cheaper than the Soyuz, I see no reason, why the ISS couldn't exist indefinitely. But somehow I have the impression that the ISS will be deorbited even if it will so happen. If I would be Putin, I would allow the U.S. part to go, and then I would cooperate with the Chinese... if anything wonderful exist in the current Humanity, it is that we have permanent human presence in the Space. If anything wonderful exist in the U.S. then it is that they are its flagship country. And now this all goes away :-( | |
| May 27, 2018 at 14:59 | comment | added | called2voyage♦ | @peterh This was a few years ago, see the article in the OP. There was never any doubt that there was a limited life to the ISS. Each nation has a different opinion of what to do after the fact. space.stackexchange.com/q/8514/58 | |
| May 27, 2018 at 13:29 | comment | added | peterh | I never heard from the Russian side, that they would want to leave the ISS project. While there are regularly news that the USA wants to deorbit the ISS. | |
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| May 19, 2014 at 21:56 | comment | added | called2voyage♦ | @JamesKingsbery Currently Russia is saying that they won't extend beyond 2020, but I suppose worsening US-Russia relations could accelerate that timetable. | |
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| May 15, 2014 at 17:18 | comment | added | Tristan | @aramis It seems you don't understand the difference between docking and berthing. Dragon is berthed at the Node 2 Nadir CBM. The only viable docking port on the US segment right now is the PMA attached to Node 2 Forward. Call it paranoid if you want, but NASA calls the shots. They will not allow a crewed launch to the ISS that does not include launch abort capability and docking (not berthing) capability. The problem is, the docking port up there is APAS, and all the commercial crew organizations are designing for NDS. The NDS adapter (IDA) hasn't flown. | |
| May 15, 2014 at 16:30 | comment | added | aramis | @Tristan Doing something and doing something to NASA paranoid-delusions-of-safety are different things. And the photo in the article I linked to labels Dragon docked to Harmony. Which, if Node 2 is the norm, means that there are places for 2 different Dragons to simultaneously dock. DragonRider's abort capability is not essential to putting men into orbit nor onto the station. It's nice, but if it comes down to losing the US portion of the station or launching without proven abort, I suspect it will be "launch now". | |
| May 15, 2014 at 15:53 | comment | added | Tristan | @aramis Correction: Dragon berths to Node 2. Berthing is a non-starter for crew for many reasons, most notably the inability to perform an emergency separation. Dragon has also not demonstrated a launch abort capability (they're working on it), which brings us back to the shuttle-era problem of ascent failures not being survivable. | |
| May 15, 2014 at 6:20 | comment | added | aramis | @Tristan Dragon docks to Harmony. ( space.com/20043-dragon-capsule-space-station-docking.html ) Dragon is air-tight and thermally controlled already. Dragonrider is, essentially, Dragon with seats and an oxygen supply, and uses the same hatch configuration. No new adapter needed. Plus, in a pinch, EVA PLSS packs and demountable couches could serve to put up a "Not Abandoned Yet" crew. | |
| May 14, 2014 at 17:34 | comment | added | Tristan | @aramis Putting people in orbit is one thing. Keeping them alive is another. Docking with station is a third issue. One thing to keep in mind is that the docking system that is planned for all these commercial vehicles to use hasn't been installed on station yet. | |
| May 14, 2014 at 17:01 | comment | added | James Kingsbery | @called2voyage, yes I was aware, but that's a good point too. From a US-centric perspective, it seems really bad if when Dragon (or whatever we use as the replacement) is ready to go to ISS in 2017 or so, it will have no space station that would welcome it docking. | |
| May 14, 2014 at 17:00 | comment | added | aramis | SpaceX could put people in orbit in 60 days, if the testing were accelerated on DragonRider. | |
| May 14, 2014 at 16:21 | comment | added | Tristan | It is also worthwhile to note that the US segment is what provides the capability for round-the-clock communications via the TDRSS network. Russian assets currently only support communications when ISS is within line-of-sight to Russian ground stations, which happens approximately two hours per day. Furthermore, until Russia launches the SPM, it is dependent on the US operating segment to supply a substantial amount of electrical power. | |
| May 14, 2014 at 11:39 | comment | added | called2voyage♦ | @PearsonArtPhoto "With the proper budget ... the US has ample capability to strike out on its own." | |
| May 14, 2014 at 5:26 | comment | added | LocalFluff | The Russian module was planned to become the core module of MIR-2. That's why it is designed to work independently. However, without the solar array and communication systems of the other ISS modules, it would just be the first basic building block of a proper space station. | |
| May 14, 2014 at 1:29 | comment | added | PearsonArtPhoto♦ | Give SpaceX a year or two... wunderground.com/news/spacex-sending-humans-to-space-20130110 | |
| May 13, 2014 at 21:22 | comment | added | called2voyage♦ | It might also be worthwhile to note, in case the OP and others are unaware, that even if the US part of the ISS could survive on its own, we currently have no way of ferrying people to and from the ISS without Russian spacecraft. | |
| May 13, 2014 at 21:18 | comment | added | called2voyage♦ | A side note: Russia may currently be weaker than the US alone, but its relations with China are fairly strong (see Wikipedia) and Russia and China in concert might prove to be a formidable competitor in a reignited space race, were one to occur. | |
| May 13, 2014 at 21:12 | history | edited | called2voyage♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| May 13, 2014 at 21:00 | history | answered | called2voyage♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |