Timeline for Were over 3,000 persons arrested in Britain for social media posts in 2018?
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| Apr 11, 2023 at 8:03 | vote | accept | pinegulf | ||
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| Dec 16, 2022 at 13:53 | comment | added | DJClayworth | Can you take this to chat? | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 12:33 | comment | added | vsz | @user253751 to be cynical, I could say that they don't want to be arrested (or lose their job) for not being okay with that so of course they say they are okay with that. But instead of the extreme example with Hitler, the question of Crimea would be a fairer comparison. Less than 15% of the population has ever been Ukrainian, it was part of Ukraine for merely 23 years (while part of Russia for over 200 years total). Far be it from me to decide who is right or wrong, but it seems more suppressive if an EU country forbids saying Russia has a valid claim than if Russia forbids saying they don't. | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 12:29 | comment | added | Andy Hames | @eyeballfrog This is one that springs to mind - cnsnews.com/article/international/micky-wootten/… Without getting into the whole PC debate the police here in the UK seem to be very quick to classify things as 'hate crimes' nowadays, although as the article states the original poster wasn't arrested (nor any other people that re-posted it) as no complaint was made to police naming them. | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 10:56 | comment | added | Stack Exchange Supports Israel | @vsz In some European countries you can also be arrested for saying Hitler did nothing wrong. This is "speech the government doesn't like" and yet most people are okay with you getting arrested for it. | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 6:15 | comment | added | hobbs | Right, but shouldn't your comparison end in "whereas in the UK you can be arrested for far less"? Russia is far from the first country to punish speech prejudicial to the conduct of an ongoing war. The UK has decided to criminalize "being mildly annoying with the help of electrons". | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 5:42 | comment | added | vsz | "By contrast in Russia you can be arrested for saying online that Crimea does not belong to Russia." - similarly, in some European countries you can be arrested for saying that Crimea does belong to Russia. Several countries started criminalizing statements supportive of Russia in the war. | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 2:47 | comment | added | Joe W | @kaya3 And that is a good example to use on the British side but they haven't made laws to make those things illegal either. | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 1:28 | comment | added | kaya3 | @JoeW For what it's worth, in September a man in Oxford was arrested for shouting "who elected him?" during King Charles III's proclamation, and another man who held a blank sheet of paper in Parliament Square was told by a police officer that he would have been arrested if he wrote "Not My King" on it. I don't mention this to suggest an equivalence, as there isn't one - but "holding a sign in public with text that the government doesn't like" perhaps isn't the best way to draw a line between the UK and Russia's policing. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 21:30 | comment | added | eyeballfrog | Is there any breakdown of what kind of post led to each arrest? | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 20:27 | comment | added | DRF | @FraserOrr You're joking, but laws written like that lead exactly to those scary outcomes once the person being "annoyed" is powerful or influential enough. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 20:09 | comment | added | Fraser Orr | Every time someone replies to one of my online comments with a good point refuting my comment it causes me annoyance and needless anxiety.... So you all had better upvote my comment or I'm calling the cops. 😀 | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 19:50 | comment | added | DJClayworth | I'm not saying it couldn't be. I'm saying it shouldn't be. But you are free to disagree. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 19:28 | comment | added | Joe W | And I am saying that the question about Britain jailing people for posting on social media can be answered without comparing their actions to Russian actions. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 19:09 | comment | added | DJClayworth | @JoeW The fact that the OP is not making a fair comparison is exactly my point. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 18:20 | comment | added | Joe W | @TimRias People in Russia are getting arrested for many things that the government doesn't like including holding a sign in public with text that that the government doesn't like. I don't think it is a fair comparison at all. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 18:08 | comment | added | TimRias | @JoeW The original claim made the comparison to Russia, implying that the cases are similar. Point out that this is an apples to oranges comparison is therefor relevant to the answer. (Even if the OP thinks it is not.) | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 17:16 | history | edited | DJClayworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 15, 2022 at 16:59 | comment | added | DJClayworth | It's not "whataboutism". I'm pointing out how the categories of "arrests because of social media" are different in UK and Russia. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 16:57 | comment | added | Joe W | We should not be resorting to whataboutism by saying there are arrests but you can be more easily arrested for less in other parts of the world. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 16:54 | history | edited | DJClayworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 15, 2022 at 16:52 | comment | added | DJClayworth | @JoeW Unfortunately in this life where people regularly try to make claims that sound like they are bad but really aren't you always have to address the implied subtext of the claim. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 16:49 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | the communications under that act include emails and dms, neither of which could be described as posting on social media. So if the claim is based on arrests under that act, it's likely an exaggeration. (I know someone in the UK who received death threats by email, and the police mentioned this act as what they would use to charge the person when they found them.) | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 15:40 | comment | added | Joe W | I don't think the last part about comparing it to what is happening in Russia is needed as this should just focus on what is happening in Britain. | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 15:23 | history | answered | DJClayworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |