Timeline for Did "fossil-fuel pollution [kill] three times as many people as COVID-19 did" in 2020?
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| Apr 2, 2022 at 18:24 | comment | added | tckosvic | Reported covid deaths of 900k in roughly 2 years moves WWll to be a minor historical event where 400K US deaths were incurred in roughly 4 years. By deaths I mean abrupt deaths. Not shortening one's lifetime by a few per cent as per air pollution. I consider the former more significant than the latter.. | |
| Mar 24, 2022 at 14:04 | comment | added | User65535 | @cimmanon That could have an effect, but when we are talking about 90% of deaths reprasenting an order of magnitude underestimation it would have to be a lot of such cases to make a significant effect on the overall answer. If you are aware of any quantitative studies that could shed light on the issue I could work them into this answer. | |
| Mar 24, 2022 at 12:57 | comment | added | cimmanon | There is a big difference between "COVID killed someone" and "someone tested positive for COVID before they died". Most people who die from COVID were not healthy to begin with. Are you familiar with the Alberta boy who tested positive for COVID before he died of brain cancer? He became the poster child for getting children vaccinated, until the family spoke out. cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/… | |
| Mar 24, 2022 at 10:45 | history | edited | User65535 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 23, 2022 at 23:25 | comment | added | 1muflon1 | By the way those excess deaths are the excess deaths associated with pandemic not directly with Covid. They include effect that lockdowns had on postponing medical procedures. | |
| Mar 23, 2022 at 14:44 | comment | added | User65535 | I do try and mention that, "there are semantic questions about how deaths indirectly related to covid are counted in this context". Any quantification of this effect you are aware would help the answer if you pointed me at it. | |
| Mar 23, 2022 at 14:41 | comment | added | akostadinov | @EdvinW, I agree. Deaths caused by stupid restrictions, fear and lifestyle changes are unfair to be counted as caused by the virus. | |
| Mar 23, 2022 at 13:40 | comment | added | EdvinW | Excess death would also include deaths caused by the restrictions imposed by governments (via depression, less exercise etc), even including deaths resulting from vaccine side effects. I don't necessarily claim these are the most important factors, but people have been very much on the lookout for covid-related deaths, and since there are so much excess death that's unaccounted for you need some real evidence to attribute all of it to the virus itself. This especially since the world has changed quite extensively by the reactions to covid, and we can't know 100% they were all necessary. | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 14:38 | comment | added | LShaver | Direct link to 2020 COVID-19 deaths per Our World in Data | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 14:27 | comment | added | User65535 | @LShaver Our world in data has total_deaths = 1,881,743 for the end of 2020. As they have 17 for 22nd Jan I think that is an answer. | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 13:53 | comment | added | LShaver | What is the "official" count for 2020, if there is one? If we're applying a less conservative model to covid deaths, it only makes sense to apply a less conservative model to fossil fuel deaths as well. So we should at least start by comparing the "official" numbers. | |
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| S Mar 22, 2022 at 11:09 | history | answered | User65535 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |