Timeline for Are Russian Twitter trolls exploiting the (Feb 2018) Florida school shooting?
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| Mar 2, 2018 at 8:45 | comment | added | Evargalo | @T.Sar (...) You seem to mistrust TechNewsWorld on principle, and you may have for some good anterior reasons for that, but this article doesn't raise more concern for skepticism. (if you want to prolongate this debate maybe we should move to chat) | |
| Mar 2, 2018 at 8:42 | comment | added | Evargalo | @T.Sar : on the form, I don't see how this article's way of quoting is different from any well accepted source. The fact that they name precisely who is speaking allows that person to protest in case the quote is not faithful (which would be a huge blemish for the media's credibility). Would you want to be able to download their conversation with the quoted expert ? No newspaper does that, but for the most sensitive investigations (if they accuse a politician of something illegal, for instance, they may provide a testimony in extenso to prevent a trial for diffamation). | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 15:07 | comment | added | JMac | @Probably_someone Clearly it stands for "Too daunting? Let's recap!" | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 10:56 | comment | added | T. Sar | They don't really quote anything, they just provide links for those organizations' websites. This isn't a reference by me, it is just a link. It would be very easy for me to put up a random gibberish about someone and then, as "proof", link their workplace. Proof that James Scott exists is different from proof that he said something. That, coupled with the fact that techNews use freelance, not exactly professional writers makes suspect the text they put out. That said - your other sources are fine. | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 9:04 | comment | added | Evargalo | probably_someone : I have just edited "TD;LR" into "TL;DR". Not sure myself what it stands for ! | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 9:02 | history | edited | Evargalo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Mar 1, 2018 at 8:55 | comment | added | Evargalo | @T.Sar ../.. ,especially if you don't trust TechNewsWorld in the first place. However, the facts that their sources are well identified (and numerous!), that the title and the tone of the article are not "clickbait-like", and especially that other, reputable, media (NYT, BBC...) reached the same conclusion, make me believe that TechNewsWorld's article is genuine and actually a pretty decent piece of journalism. | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 8:51 | comment | added | Evargalo | @T.Sar I don't know TechNewsWorld well enough to assess their truthworthiness in general, but in this article at least they quote multiple and well referred sources: not only James Scott from ICIT, but also an article from New York Times and interviews with executives from Distil Networks, Risk Based Security, Bromium, Tellagraff. I looks like they did a reasonnable research job before wirting their paper. Of course, one could imagine some interviews to be faked or untruthfully rendered, or that other interviews with experts having different opinions have been omitted. ../.. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 22:11 | comment | added | T. Sar | @WakeDemons3 Not really. I can believe that russians want to troll americans for whatever reason. I have no issues with this answer overall, keep that in mind. My qualms is with TechNews. They don't source their stuff properly, and make a fuss of things more than what is needed. They are somewhat sensationalist. That said, you have no need to attack me personally. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 22:06 | comment | added | T. Sar | @Evargalo TechNewsWorld pushed forward an unsourced claim. They have a "Original Research" thing going on - allegedly, James Scott told then so and so in a interview for TechNewsWorld. This is my issue with this. This is the unsourced part. Your answer is fine. My issue isn't with the possibility of russians trolling americans, I just really, really have serious doubts with TechNews trustyworthyness. Your other sources, for example, are fine by me. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 21:00 | comment | added | probably_someone | I'm not quite sure what TD;LR is supposed to mean... | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 20:22 | comment | added | Evargalo | @T.Sar : what unsourced claim ? I actually proceed by checking two of the six sources given in the article quoted in the OP. I also mention similar claims in two other media (and a simple google request provides more). I believe it is a decent approach to check about the credibility of the article and its claim... | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 20:09 | comment | added | WakeDemons3 | It's clear from your comments T. Sar that you really really don't want to believe this, regardless. Terrible Skepticist. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 18:01 | comment | added | T. Sar | Well, to me at least it is a bit weird to include the (unsourced) claim as source for what the answer. There isn't anything wrong per se, but it doesn't add real value to the answer. | |
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| Feb 28, 2018 at 14:27 | comment | added | Evargalo | @T.Sar : Yes they are. I've acknowledged it myself: According to TechNewsWorld, the source from the OP, (...). Is there anything wrong with that ? | |
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| Feb 28, 2018 at 14:21 | comment | added | T. Sar | Your first quotes are just repeating what is said in the link of the claim. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 14:18 | history | answered | Evargalo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |