I have heard that is better to never click to any link in an email. Is it a bad idea to click to a unsubscribe link? What is the best way to unsubscribe to undesired mails?
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36Sometimes they track it when you want to unsubscribe and mark you as "active". Your email is then much more worth.– Danny.Commented Jun 30, 2015 at 9:28
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2You want to unsubscribe to the email, so I guess setting a filter to delete emails before downloading them is not good enough for you, is it so?– Mindwin Remember MonicaCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 12:49
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1Seems that title is a quite simple: I thought it was about how to implement a secure unsubscribe link when I saw it in Hot Network Questions.– Gustavo RodriguesCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 15:31
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3There is no way. For me, if the email is legitimate, from a reasonably trustworthy source, or from known mailing system (MailChimp, ConstantContact), then I click unsubscribe. If it is pure spam, I block the sender. They already got through a CAPTCHA (SpamArrest), so I know they are at least not a bot.– ChloeCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 20:13
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11I've occasionally been removed from spam lists by doing a WHOIS on the originating domain, and emailing a legal cease and desist order to them, notifying them that they are in violation of the CANSPAM act. That usually makes it stop.– mopsydCommented Jul 1, 2015 at 21:32
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You should not click on any links. By clicking on the "unsubscribe" link you probably get marked as "Active Reader" which is willing to interact. You also get on the page of the sender, which might could infect you with malware.
Remember: With clicking on any link you've confirmed to the sender that your email address is both valid and in active use.
Just delete and ignore it. Your email then might get marked as "inactive".
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131I followed this advice for many years, but the spam never stopped. About a year ago I started actively unsubscribing from all spam mail I got when a link was provided and I now get pretty much zero spam. While you obviously need to take care clicking any link from an un-trusted 3rd party, if you want to stop receiving emails then you need to unsubscribe (its not like it costs them any money to send those emails)– JustinCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12
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5There is a huge market where "active" email adresses are traded. How they evaluate if one email is active/in use? With such "unsubscribe" links and other methods. Please have a look at: spamhaus.org/consumer/removeisformugs– Danny.Commented Jun 30, 2015 at 12:16
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19@Justin Businesses in the US are legally required to respect unsubscribe requests from users they send email to, so clicking said links definitely can be effective as long as the spammers are following the law (obviously though, some sources of spam are based outside the US or sent by people who don't care about the law). ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/…– Ajedi32Commented Jun 30, 2015 at 13:19
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6US business are legally required to unsubscribe you, but they are still in possession of your email address and can then sell it on to other mailers. Nothing prevents them from doing so. Is your goal to get off this particular list, or minimize the amount of junk mail you receive?– SnowbodyCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 14:48
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34@Danny. Please don't do that on a service used by others, like Gmail or Hotmail, at least not for lists you actually signed up for. By marking as junk, you are affecting other people who do want to receive messages from those lists. Commented Jun 30, 2015 at 20:37
I think the one thing the others (as of this post) hasn't mentioned: Source of the spam
I would say you should differentiate between "Good" spam (Something you signed up for - knowingly, accidentally, "opt-in" purposely, "opt-out" not clicked)... And "Bad"/"Unknown" spam (random garbage that likely uses the click for tracking).
I have no issue clicking "unsub" from Lowe's email (I signed up for "Weekly Specials" when I got my Lowe's Card. Then later, I realized I don't want those emails)... but I wouldn't click on "CH3@P V1@GRA!!!" unsub links.
One is someone you KNOW should have your email and you know they know you are active. The other is someone who probably doesn't know you are active - until you click that link.
Edit: As mentioned in comments: There is Good and Bad spam, but sometimes you are unclear. I've had the same gmail address for 10+ years now. Lots of stuff comes in. Personally, I have a good idea of what spam I'm supposed to get (News letters, stack notifications, facebook updates, bill reminders, etc)...
I also kinda know whats outside of the normal. Normal has changed as I've been actively "unsubbing" from stuff I expect because I don't read it anymore (largely due to changed job and changed newsletter reading), but I still have an idea of the expected ebb and flow.
If I'm unsure, I err on the side of not clicking in the email and instead click "mark as spam". This keeps me with two buckets: Good and Bad(/unknown).
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2Of course! But @Nrc is only talking about "bad"/undesired SPAM. Unsubscribing from Newsletters/"Good Spam"/Trusted Senders is almost safe.– Danny.Commented Jun 30, 2015 at 12:44
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15@Danny.
I have heard that is better to **never click to any link in an email**. Is it a bad idea to click to a unsubscribe link? What is the best way to unsubscribe to undesired mails?- Emphasis/paraphrase: "ANY link in ANY email". "Undesired" could be stuff you signed up for (like Lowes Weekly Specials in my example). I would say this question is more broad than "bad".– WernerCDCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 12:46 -
2@JaredBurrows I don't think "how" you click a link (In the gmail web app, in outlook, copy/past link into Netscape Navigator or sending a pigeon... or via CURL) matters in this regard. The question is do "They" know "this" email address is active? If you respond to it in any way, they do. If it's a company you deal with (etc: Lowe's), the know you use this email and the question of "is this email active" is irrelevant so click away... if it's an unknown company, they don't know until you "respond" - even if via CURL.– WernerCDCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 16:06
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7This answer is much better than the accepted answer. There are a number of lists I've intentionally (and unintentionally) signed up for over the years. I've found that, especially if the email is from a known managed provider (e.g. Mailchimp) the unsubscribe link is useful. Echoing others, I'd err on the side of caution and not click an unsubscribe link if I'm unsure whether the sender (or their mailing list provider) is trustworthy.– Doktor JCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 21:12
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1@LorenPechtel Personally, I would put those in Bad(Unknown). If Dewalt sends me an email because they got my Address from Lowe's - it's still not something I personally signed up for IMO (even if the small print says Lowe's will share with affiliates). It's unexpected and gets the Report Spam Gmail Salute from lil ole me. It's more of a grey area, since I "trust" "Lowe's".– WernerCDCommented Jul 2, 2015 at 14:35
It's pretty much a coin toss. If the spammer is a honest one, you'll get unsubscribed. If he's a malicious one, you'll get marked as "active reader" and get enrolled in even more spam lists.
The second option silently assumes that it's actually worth the spammer's time to keep track of "good" and "bad" recipients, that is, that having a tracking system is more cost-effective than simply sending more spam. That may or may not be true. You have to decide that on your own.
I'd disregard the "you may get infected" argument, because it's not a threat exclusive to spam - you should keep your browser updated and ignore install requests all the time, not just sometimes.
I personally tend to ignore spam and wait for mailbox provider to update their filters. But I do believe that many unsubscribe links are legit because few times they've worked for me.
In addition to being marked as an active reader as @Danny says, unsubscribe links could be used to infect your system with malware. If you actually subscribed to the site and want to unsubscribe the best way to do it is log into the site and change your preferences. Otherwise report it as spam and delete it.
If you know the sender has got your email address legitimately, as per @WernerCD's answer ('Something you signed up for - knowingly, accidentally, "opt-in" purposely, "opt-out" not clicked'), go to their website and unsubscribe there.
Many companies use third party web sites as end points for the unsubscribe links ("mailbot.com/unsubscribe" as opposed to "company.com/unsubscribe") in their emails, making it virtually impossible to know whether it's actually spam or not. The company already has your email, so they will definitely continue spamming if you don't do anything, and would have shared your email already if they are so inclined. Of course, their unsubscribe functionality may not work, at which point you should just treat them as another spammer.
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2Or their unsubscribe functionality does work, but it will "take 10 days for your name to be removed from our list". If I unsubscribe and get another marketing email from them, BAM, marked as spam.– LesCommented Dec 1, 2016 at 13:46
I use hotmail (live/outlook...) and in their web client, at the bottom of each email they have an unsubscribe button, it is not part of the email it's within the mail client and this button will unsubscribe you from sources which they trust and have set up this system with.
If the source is not trusted they will simply block them from sending you further mail.
This works well in both scenarios, and if you use a different provider there should be a way to block senders.
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2This is very interesting. But I dont't like the "block" part. Typically, I want to unsubscribe from Apple's news, but I don't want to block e-mails from Apple. Commented Jun 30, 2015 at 15:04
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good point, which I hadn't considered, but you do not need to block the whole mail domain, for example with apple you could block '[email protected]', so you could still receive mail from '[email protected]' but if something is certainly not to be trusted block the whole domain. I feel it is more proactive than the other answers here.– jbaldwinCommented Jun 30, 2015 at 15:29
In the USA, there is the CAN SPAM act which requires advertisers to honor and respect unsubscribe requests. Violating this is a very serious crime. You can report it easily to the FTC, and if it's a US company, they will get into a lot of trouble. Because of how bad the punishment is, legitimate companies rarely disregard unsubscribe requests - you can safely unsubscribe from those (and in fact it's better because you don't pollute the spam filter with non-spam data).
With shady companies that use the unsubscribe link as a trap, of course it is a bad idea, they will just send you more spam and sell your email for more money. You can usually figure out easily if a sender is legitimate - just look at the TLD, if it's a .com check the WHOIS, see if there's a physical address anywhere on their site or in their email. Getting "respectable" TLDs like .com is pretty hard for spammers, because they will quickly get reported for abuse and registrars will punish them. They prefer obscure TLDs like co.cc where the abuse prevention doesn't work very well.
But if you are getting a promotion from Target because you bought a pair of shoes there last week and gave them your email, of course they're not going to keep sending you spam after unsubscribing. Getting slapped with criminal charges just isn't worth it for them.
Be careful about clicking links in dodgy spam. They stuff a unique per-mail ID into every link (usually will look like www.buythesedrugs.com/store?id=baef8f6785b26c986d29) - if you click that link, even if it's nothing to do with unsubscribing, the spammer can see what email that id was sent to and deduce that you are getting and reading his mails. If you manually remove the id, and go to just www.buythesedrugs.com/store you will be fine (but don't enter your email anywhere).
My experience with such links is that the amount of spam that I receive tends to decrease when I click on such links. Although most such links go to a similar/identical page as each other, I am of the opinion that those links are provided in order to legally cover the spammers - because anyone sending email has a legal obligation to stop sending at the recipient's request, thus they are legally covered as they have provided a way to request to receive no more emails from them. In order to reduce the number of people who unsubscribe (and thus increase the number of people that they can continue spamming) they make the links difficult to find. That's my experience anyway.
answered Jul 2, 2015 at 15:25
If you are using Gmail it should be safe to click Unsubscribe link right after the "from" name in the Gmail interface. Google tries to validate senders and show Unsubscribe only for senders with a high reputation:
We won't provide the unsubscribe option on messages from spammers: we can't trust that they'll actually unsubscribe you, and they might even send you more spam. So you'll only see the unsubscribe option for senders that we're pretty sure are not spammers and will actually honor your unsubscribe request. We're being pretty conservative about which senders to trust in the beginning; over time, we hope to offer the ability to unsubscribe from more email.
See also this relevant question on StackOverflow.
What is the best way to unsubscribe to undesired mails?
Sometimes I begin getting spam from sites where I have never registered or subscribed to receive their newsletters. This looks weird to me because I can recover password from these sites, login and change subscription settings while I have never registered on them. This is some sort of "Good" spam as @WernerCD says.
In this case I usually alter my subscription email address to any free disposable email address such as ThrowAwayMail.com or 10minutemail.com (I can do it after logging in). I guess that it is better way of unsubscribing because chances are my real email will be completely deleted from spam list.
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that's ok - some people don't know you can edit your own answers– schroeder ♦Commented Dec 17, 2016 at 13:31