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3Yes I saw this list on another site before I posted it, good old en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wolf_359 There were only 16 ships on that list. Although it's an interesting read I was hoping that the fact that they specifically said there were 40 ships at they battle and in a later episode only 39 were destroyed was significant in some way. Clearly the writers knew about the number 40 mentioned previously by the Admiral. Why make it only 39 after? Has to be some reason.– JMFBCommented Apr 10, 2015 at 13:35
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@JMFB: maybe the Admiral was providing an approximate figure, and the actual number was 39.– Paul D. WaiteCommented Apr 10, 2015 at 14:31
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@PaulD.Waite Perhaps...but that's pure conjecture and not supported by the facts. Part of the reason I included the statement from the encyclopedia was to refute any possibility of the number being a guess. It's also hard to imagine that an admiral would be off by a few ships and guesstimate what his fleet size is. Further he makes a very specific count of Federation ships 40, and then afterwards adds that they've reached out to the Klingons and possibly even the Romulans. The Admiral is pretty clear that the number is 40. The writers also stick to that number in the encyclopedia. 40 is the #.– JMFBCommented Apr 10, 2015 at 17:48
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@JMFB: sure, but the fact that the encyclopaedia says 40 doesn’t really add anything, unless you think they had another source. (And because these are fictional events, that seems unlikely.)– Paul D. WaiteCommented Apr 10, 2015 at 23:56
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@PaulD.Waite Yes it adds the fact that well after the fact, the writers of TNG included it as a fact. So the writers are acknowledging that number. That's a pretty strong argument. It adds a lot. It's kind of like Tolken saying just because a character says something in the story doesn't make it true. But in this case we have an admiral, it's simply the number in his fleet, no reason to lie or believe he didn't have accurate info. And the writers back that up in supplementary reference material. It's significant.– JMFBCommented Apr 11, 2015 at 0:01
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