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| Dec 14, 2017 at 16:44 | comment | added | Pryftan | @check123 No it's definitely the case. Besides that he had a great amount of control even from his tower. Also remember this: the last time he was out in person he lost the Ring; do you really think he would make that mistake again without the Ring? Definitely not! He should have of course closed off Sammath Naur but he didn't think that was approachable until Frodo claimed the Ring and put it on his finger: then Sauron was definitely made aware of his folly and afraid too: though he felt he would still succeed but he didn't expect Gollum to be there | |
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| Jul 7, 2013 at 18:28 | comment | added | Morg. | @Christopher Denethor was weak. The books did place him above commoners, but not that far above, and clearly very far from being an equal to his ancestors, and much less Aragorn. | |
| Feb 29, 2012 at 19:57 | comment | added | Andres F. | @Christopher I agree with you. The movie completely destroyed Denethor's character. He is still flawed but more ambiguous in the books; not a completely unlikeable character. And I think he was partly right about lords leading armies from their castles. But it was also true that Sauron was weakened and too fearful to come out and fight. | |
| Dec 29, 2011 at 6:17 | comment | added | Christopher | @Morg - I disagree with you on this one. The movie didn't pay Denethor the respect he deserves. He had the blood of a nearly pure Westernesse and had a stronger will than Sauruman, strong enough to use the plantir. He could bend his will far and wide, looking into the hearts of men and surveying his enemy. It was his knowledge of Sauron that caused him to despair. | |
| Oct 6, 2011 at 5:44 | comment | added | Morg. | This quote is completely irrelevant. Denethor is nowhere close to being knowledgeable about Sauron (compared to the elves or the mayar, which know much much more) and the only thing he is expressing there is "omgnoez we're toast". No, Sauron would NOT have shown himself leading the armies to Minas Tirith, since that is complete utter nonsense ... Showing Denethor an army capable of destroying/taking MT without the need for Sauron or even all his military power is far more discouraging than the dark lord's physical presence (he is present in mind at the siege of MT, as the cloud / atmosphere. | |
| Oct 4, 2011 at 10:42 | comment | added | leftaroundabout | @check123: but I think Denethor is right here. He has a very pessimistic view of the things, in part due to Saurons manipulations through the Palantír. Would Sauron have shown it to him had he planned to lead his army to Minas Tirith himself? I think yes, as it would have left even less hope of standing the upcoming siege, and thereby further increased the likelyhood of Denethor giving up. | |
| Oct 4, 2011 at 8:27 | comment | added | Jack V. | This, although probably exceptionally so in Sauron's case. He's an angel, not a seige cannon. Tolkiein left it ambiguous what he was like in person in the third age. His power is at least partly in having massive armies to do his fighting for him, it's not even specified whether he would have especially much more in person, although he probably would. | |
| Oct 4, 2011 at 4:40 | comment | added | check123 | This could be a possibility. Note that the view is of Denethor (based on broader generalizations about behavior of kings) and not necessarily based on possible facts. | |
| Oct 3, 2011 at 18:33 | history | answered | leftaroundabout | CC BY-SA 3.0 |