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Nov 30, 2021 at 17:50 comment added JohnHunt @ Michael Borgwardt; You left the house without your copy of The Silmarillion? Does The Council know about this? You could have your privileges revoked! ;>)
Dec 27, 2012 at 23:55 comment added Ward - Trying Codidact Towards the end of the Silmarillion, it says that Eonwe (I think, I can never keep them all straight without the book in front of me) summoned all the Eldar to return to Valinor with him after Morgoth was defeated.
Dec 27, 2012 at 16:47 comment added Michael Borgwardt @Avner Shahar-Kashtan: Galadriel was the only leader of the Noldor mentioned in the Silmarillion who survived the First Age (with the possible exception of Maglor). I interpret Tolkien's words to mean that the Valar offered a general pardon, but only to those who asked for it explicitly, which Galadriel was too proud to do. Perhaps the test was necessary to offset that refusal.
Dec 27, 2012 at 15:57 comment added Avner Shahar-Kashtan Good point. But see this quote from the very end of "Of The Rings of Power and The Third Age": > "In that time the last of the Noldor set sail from the Havens and left Middle-earth for ever". It implied that all the remaining Noldor, not only Galadriel, left West. Was her test a sort of redemption for all of them?
Dec 27, 2012 at 15:20 history edited Michael Borgwardt CC BY-SA 3.0
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Dec 27, 2012 at 15:17 comment added Michael Borgwardt @Avner Shahar-Kashtan: Every other elf was not a leader of the Noldor when they defied the will of the Valar and commited the Kinslaying at Alqualondë.
Dec 27, 2012 at 15:15 history edited Michael Borgwardt CC BY-SA 3.0
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Dec 27, 2012 at 14:45 comment added Avner Shahar-Kashtan She was tested - not by some cosmic test that determines her ability to return West, but just a test of temptation when Frodo offers her the ring. How would you account for every other elf out there returning West through the Grey Havens?
Dec 27, 2012 at 14:40 comment added Michael Borgwardt @Avner Shahar-Kashtan: I believe Ward's statement is wrong, but I'll have to wait till I'm back with my copy of the Silmarillion to confirm. In either case, how else would you interpret "I have passed the test", then?
Dec 27, 2012 at 14:18 comment added Avner Shahar-Kashtan I think that's misinterpreting her words. Going into the west was always an option, as Ward states in his answer. Other elves have gone on to the west before Galadriel, and others (like her husband Celeborn) went after her.
Dec 27, 2012 at 11:53 history answered Michael Borgwardt CC BY-SA 3.0