Timeline for How are Orcs so prolific in Tolkien?
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| Oct 10, 2022 at 14:02 | comment | added | Invisible Trihedron | @IanThompson Yes, I remember that. But it doesn't explain how hordes of Orcs live underground in the Misty Mountains, whose neighboring regions are nearly deserted. | |
| Oct 10, 2022 at 11:51 | comment | added | Daniel Hatton | @IanThompson I was thinking in terms of "no big bosses" orcs coming from the Misty Mountains rather than Mordor, but yes, you're right. | |
| Oct 10, 2022 at 11:49 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | @DanielHatton --- Without his direct involvement perhaps, but the Nazgul re-entered Mordor more than 1,000 years before the War of the Ring started. | |
| Oct 10, 2022 at 11:43 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | @Valorum --- I've added the quote from Gandalf plus one from the Unfinished Tales. I've also added the exact dates of the relevant entries in the Tale of Years. | |
| Oct 10, 2022 at 11:18 | comment | added | Daniel Hatton | 'Sauron had plenty of time to build up a large force of orcs' The "no big bosses" conversation between Gorbag and Shagrat suggests that, in the lead-up to the War of the Ring, Sauron didn't so much build up a large force of orcs as take control of an existing large (and militarised) population of orcs that had arisen without his involvement. | |
| Oct 10, 2022 at 9:08 | history | edited | Ian Thompson | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 10, 2022 at 8:23 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | @InvisibleTrihedron --- "Neither he [Sam] nor Frodo knew anything of the great slave-worked fields away south in this wide realm [Mordor] ... nor of the great roads that ran away east and south to tributary lands." (The Land of Shadow) | |
| Oct 10, 2022 at 8:20 | comment | added | Ian Thompson | @Valorum --- Unfortunately, the good side doesn't tend to take agressive action when Sauron is inactive, so what we have here is an absence of quotes: there are no records of anyone trying to disrupt the build-up of Sauron's forces because that did not happen. That said, there is a remark from Gandalf on precisely this point, and I'll edit that in when I remember its location. | |
| Oct 10, 2022 at 0:17 | comment | added | Invisible Trihedron | There remains the question of what they can find to eat, particularly in devastated lands. Their orconomy seems unsustainable. | |
| Oct 9, 2022 at 16:40 | comment | added | Valorum | Instead of telling us where to find the references, why not provide the actual quotes? | |
| Oct 9, 2022 at 15:01 | history | answered | Ian Thompson | CC BY-SA 4.0 |