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Renown is among the Bête!

Renown is generally not how the spirits look at you, renown is how your peers know of you. They might have heard of your cunning or your honor or glory.

When it comes to tracking the renown, Kitsune are special: They don't do it for the spirits or themselves, they do it because everybody else does it. They pretty much mimic other breeds in how they take notes and tell spirits.

The Kitsune put little stock in Renown; it mostly seems useful when dealing with the other Breeds — although, the Kitsune reason, if the other Changers have been keeping track of the stuff for millennia, there must be something to it.1

  • W20 Changing Breeds p. 218

The spreadsheets are only examples

The spreadsheets are only examples

Renown is among the Bête!

Renown is generally not how the spirits look at you, renown is how your peers know of you. They might have heard of your cunning or your honor or glory.

When it comes to tracking the renown, Kitsune are special: They don't do it for the spirits or themselves, they do it because everybody else does it. They pretty much mimic other breeds in how they take notes and tell spirits.

The Kitsune put little stock in Renown; it mostly seems useful when dealing with the other Breeds — although, the Kitsune reason, if the other Changers have been keeping track of the stuff for millennia, there must be something to it.1

  • W20 Changing Breeds p. 218

The spreadsheets are only examples

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The pinnacle of Cunning is to use trickery. However, Trickery is not something a Kitsune uses against their friends or allies. It's a weapon in the Kitsune's quiver against those that are the target of Rule 1. It's the weapon for cunning, but not the only one, and it is most certainly not used against your buddies. Kitsune are not Nuwisha after all!

A good and honorable Kitsune is a friend to his neighbors and protects the humans to some degree. He assists them, doesn't lie to them, and just by doing that he constantly triggers the 1-3 Honor categories. Harbored a Fera for a few days? Spoke on behalf of the foreigners in the local court? That's all covered in the demands part of the Laws of Heaven!

There's only one caveat: the Rule #8 forbids suicide for honor. Depending on the GM, this can extend to ban challenges with deadly weapons or claws, but there are ways to circumvent that: Riddle contests or a contest with non-lethal weapons are options.

The 5 Honor category has examples for not breaking your word, even against adversaries, and most of the bans also are well covered in the examples for higher Honor renown. And even here, you might want to look at Ferocity about upholding protocol for inspiration.

A good and honorable Kitsune is a friend to his neighbors and protects the humans to some degree. He assists them, doesn't lie to them, and just by doing that he constantly triggers the 1-3 Honor categories. Harbored a Fera for a few days? Spoke on behalf of the foreigners in the local court? That's all covered in the demands part!

There's only one caveat: the Rule #8 forbids suicide for honor. Depending on the GM, this can extend to ban challenges with deadly weapons or claws, but there are ways to circumvent that: Riddle contests or a contest with non-lethal weapons are options.

The 5 Honor category has examples for not breaking your word, even against adversaries, and most of the bans also are well covered in the examples for higher Honor renown.

The pinnacle of Cunning is to use trickery. However, Trickery is not something a Kitsune uses against their friends or allies. It's a weapon in the Kitsune's quiver against those that are the target of Rule 1. It's the weapon for cunning, but not the only one, and it is most certainly not used against your buddies. Kitsune are not Nuwisha after all!

A good and honorable Kitsune is a friend to his neighbors and protects the humans to some degree. He assists them, doesn't lie to them, and just by doing that he constantly triggers the 1-3 Honor categories. Harbored a Fera for a few days? Spoke on behalf of the foreigners in the local court? That's all covered in the demands part of the Laws of Heaven!

There's only one caveat: Rule #8 forbids suicide for honor. Depending on the GM, this can extend to ban challenges with deadly weapons or claws, but there are ways to circumvent that: Riddle contests or a contest with non-lethal weapons are options.

The 5 Honor category has examples for not breaking your word, even against adversaries, and most of the bans also are well covered in the examples for higher Honor renown. And even here, you might want to look at Ferocity about upholding protocol for inspiration.

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The spreadsheets are only examples

The spreadsheets all start with one very important pair of words: Sample Behavior. They are not meant to be the end-all-be-all. The Renown Charts on page 219 and following are meant to be general examples, from which the Storyteller can work - which is actually much more concise guidance in one spot than there was in Hengeyokai - It did claim that Chie was Wisdom there even, which wasn't reflecting the make enemies fight one another very well.

The ST also might want to check out the other renown types and see what from those might fit better to a breed's interpretation of renown - and then shift the fitting examples. Because they are just examples and don't cover everything.

The examples are still applicable

Cunning

As you noticed, cunning is the most straightforward in applicability and easily translatable to Kitsune - the pinnacle example from the blurb is very much a case of 7 Cunning.

In fact, a well-orchestrated plan might involve triggering multiple goals without even being in the fight: Stopping a Pentax Subsidiary from building their bane-powered nuclear reactor by tipping off a Namebreaker Technologist lawyer in a black suit and then watching the carnage as a First-Team gets taken apart by a couple of HIT-Marks and then total shutdown of the facility triggers all of the following examples: 7 cunning, 5 Cunning, two variants of 3 Cunning, 7 Glory, and depending on how many members on either side of that carnage died, multiple other instances of Glory.

Honor

The description of Honor for Kitsune points out to be Kitsune to the fullest and to uphold the Laws of heaven. The spreadsheet for honor in particular has examples for the rules 2 to 8 - dealing respectfully with the other Bête/Fera, Spirits and humans (as long as they are not covered under Rule 1) just as much as aiding them is what being a good fox is all about.

A good and honorable Kitsune is a friend to his neighbors and protects the humans to some degree. He assists them, doesn't lie to them, and just by doing that he constantly triggers the 1-3 Honor categories. Harbored a Fera for a few days? Spoke on behalf of the foreigners in the local court? That's all covered in the demands part!

There's only one caveat: the Rule #8 forbids suicide for honor. Depending on the GM, this can extend to ban challenges with deadly weapons or claws, but there are ways to circumvent that: Riddle contests or a contest with non-lethal weapons are options.

The 5 Honor category has examples for not breaking your word, even against adversaries, and most of the bans also are well covered in the examples for higher Honor renown.

Glory

Glory on the other hand is described as perfection, but the spreadsheet is having examples all over Rule 1. The more effective you are in doing the "Destroy that which harms Gaia", the more likely you match the higher ranks of Glory, but that does not tell the whole story.

What is not well visibly covered in the example spreadsheet is the doing things for those that matter part. To some degree, the examples for Glory about stories could count here, or "proving one’s bravery in a routine situation".

On the other hand, the point "Surviving an incapacitating Blow" and the multiple variants of dying don't fit very well. However, examples from other spreadsheets are a good way to populate a group's renown sheets. For Fox Glory, a couple of good examples that could be used to replace unfitting tenets could be:

  • 3 Ferocity: Defeating an enemy without being harmed, remaining calm in the face of extreme adversity
  • 7 Ferocity: Upholding protocol in the face of humiliation
  • 7 Humor: banishing the Wyrm from an area through indirect or nonviolent means