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Nov 21, 2023 at 20:32 comment added got trolled too much this week @codeMonkey: If it took 8 barrel bombs to kill one civilians (SNHR--essentially opposition--data) then either they were so inacurate as to hit empty fields... which given most of the footage seems unlikely... or they were accurate enough to hit close enough to the front lines, where there were few civilians. Frankly, I bet Israel wishes they killed only one civilian every 8 (comparable, e.g. 500 lbs+) bombs in this war.
Nov 21, 2023 at 20:22 comment added codeMonkey @Fizz - The Ukraine thing is kind of the point - Ukrainian forces have consistently used fins because they are targeting military targets and that requires precision. The Syrian Air Force was terror-bombing, so accuracy wasn't important and they largely just let the bombs tumble. It shouldn't be surprising that the Syrian Air Force is believed to have caused many civilian deaths if they were indiscriminately bombing civilian populations.
Nov 21, 2023 at 20:16 comment added got trolled too much this week @codeMonkey: as for inaccuracy, YMMV. If one can drop grenades pretty accurately from drones (as seen a gzillion times in Ukraine), why not barrel bombs from a hovering helicopter. IIRC that was their usual delivery route. youtube.com/watch?v=QTy_l04007I Yeah, the Syrians might not have cared much about accuracy... But they were not all as unstabilized as you might think youtu.be/v3W9Bgzpkq8?t=57 (something we see in Ukraine with grenades drops too)
Nov 21, 2023 at 19:53 comment added got trolled too much this week @codeMonkey: Even SNHR claims (in 2021) only "The Syrian Network for Human Rights (SNHR) revealed in its report released today that the Syrian regime has dropped nearly 82,000 barrel bombs in nine years, killing 11,087 civilians" Way to go to 200,000 dead with just with barrel bombs. reliefweb.int/report/syrian-arab-republic/…
Nov 21, 2023 at 19:50 comment added codeMonkey Not sure why the Syrian Air Force is dismissed as a source of civilian casualties? A "barrel bomb" is literally an IED delivered via helicopter - it's a 55 gal drum full of explosives rolled out the door. They've only ever been used by the Syrian Air Force, and they were reported on so often during the course of the conflict that this answer assumes everyone knows what they are and doesn't bother to define them. Barrel bombs are indiscriminate by nature - they are not aerodynamic so they tumble and cannot be aimed. Mass, indiscriminate bombing causes civilian casualties.
Nov 21, 2023 at 14:23 comment added President James K. Polk Another reason to be skeptical: 184k adult male civilians killed versus 16k adult female civilians killed, taken with the claim of 70% killed by the air force. Bombs would kill civilians in approximately their proportion in the population. Maybe more women and children fled the conflict areas but can that really account for an 11:1 kill ratio of men to women?
Nov 21, 2023 at 10:07 comment added sfxedit Note also that that who Syrians consider as "rebels" (and thus a combatant) is very likely to be classified as a civilian by the west.
Nov 20, 2023 at 22:24 comment added got trolled too much this week It turns out there's data from Syrian gov't sources too. These were combined with opposition data in the UN report from ItalianPhilo's answer.
Nov 20, 2023 at 18:22 comment added Brian Z @ForShaniNicoleLouk very involved: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
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Nov 20, 2023 at 16:17 comment added For Shani Nicole Louk Russian forces? They were actively involved?
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