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@Obie2.0: Berlin, I read a couple of years ago, had one of the highest growths of jewish population increase. And a defeated Nazi Germany is not Nazi Germany any longer. Plus there are historical & contemporary comparisons where such possibilitors have happened: the USA, after the civil war and the emancipation of the slaves, post-aparthied South Africa, and Rwanda after the brutal genocide of the Tutsi's by the Hutus.
– Mozibur Ullah
Commented Aug 11, 2023 at 2:45
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@Obie 2.0: Whats wrong with the idea of establishing the Jewish state of Israel in land taken from Germany? And armed militarily whilst Germany is demilitarised? And this doesn't address the principle of justice that the perpetrator of a crime pays. The Palestinians were completely innocent of the Holocaust - why should they pay for the crimes of Nazi Germany?
– Mozibur Ullah
Commented Aug 11, 2023 at 2:55
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@obie 2.0: Finally, the Jewish people weren't sauntering into a terra nullus, this was the home of people who have been living there for millenia. To push for a return for one, two or three himdred years after they were brutally dispersed by the Roman Empire makes some political sense, to say so after two thpusand years makes very little sense - unless you're backed up by two super-powers.
– Mozibur Ullah
Commented Aug 11, 2023 at 2:59
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@Obie2.0: As for the founders of Zionism desire to live in Palestine close to the Jewish holy sites, they could so as plenty of Jews did so. But there wasn't a mass rush of Jews to Palestine - they had lived in Europe for long enough to become Europeans - hell, Israel competes in Eurovision - and not chance a new life in the Middle East.
– Mozibur Ullah
Commented Aug 11, 2023 at 3:06
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@Obie 2.0: As you can see I've already noted what you had to say before you bit prematurely. As for Jews returning to their homeland not being an issue - it was very definitely an issue in Mandatory Palestine. Their were revolts in Palestine culminating in a massive revolt 1936-39 where British army and officers killed 2,000 Palestinians. I expect the Palestinians distrusted British & Zionist intentions and they were right to do so as future events show.
– Mozibur Ullah
Commented Aug 11, 2023 at 3:30

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