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How did the boundary term vanish in deriving equation of motion from Lagrangian? [closed]

I was deriving the equation of motion from Lagrangian, by using the principle of least action. Usually, at this point in derivation, $$\int dt \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}} \frac{\partial}{\...
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In Lagrangian mechanics, do we need to filter out impossible solutions after solving?

The principle behind Lagrangian mechanics is that the true path is one that makes the action stationary. Of course, there are many absurd paths that are not physically realizable as paths. For ...
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Units for the Calculus of Variations [duplicate]

Just a quick question regarding the units for a quantity. I just started reading a QFT textbook, and it starts out with a little bit of Calculus of Variations. Specifically, there is a result that ...
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Variation of a function

I'm studying calculus of variations and Lagrangian mechanics and i don't understand something about the variational operator Let's say for example that i got a Lagrangian $L [x(t), \dot{x}(t), t] $ ...
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Equation of motion from lagrangian for an holonomic system with fixed constraints

We know that the lagrangian function of a holonomic system subject to fixed constraints has the form $$\mathcal{L}(\mathbf{q,\dot{q}})=\frac{1}{2} \langle \mathbf{\dot{q},A(q)\dot{q}} \rangle - U(\...
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Doubts about Noether's theorem derivation

Assume you have an action: $S[q] = \int L(q, \dot q, t)$ (i.e $q$ is a function of time). (1) Then you do a transformation on $q(t)$ such as $\sigma(q(t), a)$ where $a$ is infinetisemal and this ...
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Confusion of variable vs path in Euler-Lagrange equation, Hamiltonian mechanics, and Lagrangian mechanics

In Lagrangian mechanics we have the Euler-Lagrange equations, which are defined as $$\frac{d}{dt}\Bigg(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_j}\Bigg) - \frac{\partial L}{\partial q_j} = 0,\quad j = 1, \...
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Classical Mechanics proof Lagrangian constraint forces

I've got a simple mathematical question. I was studying the Lagrangian approach of classical mechanics and in this part I had the intention of proving that the differential of the Lagrangian is equal ...
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Confusion in derivation of Euler-Lagrange equations

Here's a screenshot of derivation of Euler-Lagrange from feynman lecture https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_19.html My doubt is in the last paragraph. I get that $\eta = 0$ at both ends, but ...
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How did Landau & Lifshitz (Mechanics) get Equation 2.5?

I understood everything in Landau & Lifshitz's mechanics book until Equation 2.4,but I'm not sure what he means when he says "effecting the variation" and gets Equation 2.5. Can anyone ...
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Lagrange momentum for position change

After the tremendous help from @hft on my previous question, after thinking, new question popped up. I want to compare how things behave when we do: $\frac{\partial S}{\partial t_2}$ and $\frac{\...
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On generalised potential in Electrodynamics

I'm studying Lagrangian Mechanics from Goldstein's Classical Mechanics. My question concerns Section 1.5 which talks about velocity-dependent potentials. I am actually unsure about how Equation 1-64' ...
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A step in the derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equations using Hamilton's Principle

I am going through the derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equations from Hamilton's principle following Landau and Lifshitz Volume 1. We start by writing the variation in the action as, $$\delta S = \...
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Deriving Hamilton's Principle from Lagrange's Equations

I'm trying to derive Hamilton's Principle from Lagrange's Equations, as I've heard they're logically equivalent statements, and am stuck on a final step. For simplicity, assume we're dealing with a ...
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Virtual displacement in semi-holonomic constraints

I am currently studying Lagrangian Mechanics for systems whose constraints equations have the form $$\sum_{k=1}^na_{\ell k}(q,t)\dot{q}_k+a_{\ell t}(q,t)=0\tag{1}$$ or, equivalently $$\sum_{k=1}^na_{\...
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