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    If you just want to train consider just top roping face with a safe route to the top.
    – paparazzo
    Commented Dec 26, 2016 at 18:18
  • @Paparazzi Incidentally, that is exactly our plan so far :-) (Better safe than sorry...)
    – anderas
    Commented Dec 26, 2016 at 18:44
  • I would argue as it has forced you to think about it, it is probably safer even if it is more likely to fail. Safety of natural placements is not a given, yet they are reliable enough complacency creeps in.
    – user5330
    Commented Dec 27, 2016 at 0:16