Timeline for Stack Exchange is failing its community
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| S Jun 25, 2023 at 13:52 | history | bounty ended | Anton Menshov | ||
| S Jun 25, 2023 at 13:52 | history | notice removed | Anton Menshov | ||
| S Jun 17, 2023 at 12:34 | history | bounty started | Anton Menshov | ||
| S Jun 17, 2023 at 12:34 | history | notice added | Anton Menshov | Draw attention | |
| S Jun 17, 2023 at 12:33 | history | bounty ended | Anton Menshov | ||
| S Jun 17, 2023 at 12:33 | history | notice removed | Anton Menshov | ||
| Jun 15, 2023 at 8:56 | history | edited | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 10, 2023 at 6:51 | comment | added | starball | holy smokes. get a load of the "Build consensus over time" section in their recent blogpost: stackoverflow.blog/2023/06/08/…. The irony is off the charts. | |
| S Jun 10, 2023 at 6:08 | history | bounty started | Anton Menshov | ||
| S Jun 10, 2023 at 6:08 | history | notice added | Anton Menshov | Draw attention | |
| Jun 10, 2023 at 5:45 | history | edited | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 10, 2023 at 1:25 | history | edited | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S Jun 7, 2023 at 22:39 | history | bounty ended | 41686d6564 | ||
| S Jun 7, 2023 at 22:39 | history | notice removed | 41686d6564 | ||
| S Jun 5, 2023 at 21:50 | history | bounty started | 41686d6564 | ||
| S Jun 5, 2023 at 21:50 | history | notice added | 41686d6564 | Reward existing answer | |
| S Jun 5, 2023 at 21:09 | history | bounty ended | gnat | ||
| S Jun 5, 2023 at 21:09 | history | notice removed | gnat | ||
| Jun 3, 2023 at 10:05 | comment | added | Zoe | Note that the previously mentioned strike has now been organised and is set to start on Monday. | |
| Jun 2, 2023 at 15:13 | comment | added | Kevin B | @Trilarion none that anyone can speak of, given nothing has been said publicly. | |
| Jun 2, 2023 at 14:59 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Just out of curiosity: Is there any indication that the company is willing to move its position over the last days? Publicly they don't post that much lately. | |
| Jun 2, 2023 at 1:02 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Not really. I don't hate the buttons specifically. I dislike that it came above changes that might benefit the community more directly | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 22:26 | comment | added | apg | is this a bad time to say I quite like the buttons? | |
| S Jun 1, 2023 at 20:24 | history | bounty started | gnat | ||
| S Jun 1, 2023 at 20:24 | history | notice added | gnat | Reward existing answer | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 17:01 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | @Rubén Can't think of anywhere better. | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 16:21 | comment | added | Rubén | I'm wondering if nowadays this is the best place to post stuff like this. | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 12:13 | answer | added | Starship - On Strike | timeline score: 28 | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 9:53 | comment | added | Ian Kemp | @JourneymanGeek Your problem, along with much of the moderation team, is that you continue to assume you're being listened to. You're not, and the only way you can change that is by drastic action, not Yet Another Angry Meta Post. For hope to continue to live, sometimes fire must burn. | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 9:47 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Well - there's constructive ways to try to change things, and if I run out of those, then all hope is completely lost, and I shouldn't be wasting my time here. | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 9:44 | comment | added | Ian Kemp | I'm not sure whether to be amused or disappointed that it's taken you so long to realise the truth that this community simply isn't important to management, especially considering how long you've been around - the way things are going has been obvious for at least half a decade. | |
| Jun 1, 2023 at 6:02 | history | edited | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 1, 2023 at 2:16 | history | edited | This_is_NOT_a_forum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading [<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/short-sighted#Adjective>]. Added some context.
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| Jun 1, 2023 at 1:10 | comment | added | nitsua60 | @Trilarion in each of the last two years' "how's it going?" meta that we do over on RPGSE declining activity/participation has been one of our top observations. | |
| May 31, 2023 at 10:10 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Sure but it would be ignoring it, and feedback that was given, not things getting missed cause silence on both sides | |
| May 31, 2023 at 7:55 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | The most amazing thing is that SE is going to utterly ignore this discussion, we won't hear even a beep from any staff member. During Monica case there was Yaakov to serve as bridge, but pretty sure he got tired of this and won't do that again. | |
| May 31, 2023 at 7:05 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | It's very much an on the ground observation - from the sites I am active on. Lots of previously thriving communities are a lot quieter than they used to be. | |
| May 31, 2023 at 6:47 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | "quite a few sites have declined" Maybe one could quantify that a bit in order to show that the changes from the company side basically didn't seem to have a strikingly positive effect. Moderators should know the company even better than normal users. They should know exactly what to expect. Maybe this is the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back or maybe not. I mostly care for the quality of the content, so if you moderators think that a strike is the best course of action in order to protect against too restrictive use of AI detection technology lowering the quality then I support it. | |
| May 31, 2023 at 0:42 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | @Makoto well in a sense - maybe it's a blessing but also a symptom of the problems with the company, that it can't attract folks with deep community roots, nor values the ones who try to do it anyway. That's rather contrasting with the old days when a good chunk of staff were site/network regulars | |
| May 31, 2023 at 0:35 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | @Trilarion nothing is new. It's the exact same problems and unhappiness again. And quite a few sites have declined and become lesser than they had over time. Nothing unique about that either. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 22:52 | comment | added | Andreas moved to Codidact | Please update your post. They now censored all other answers to their question, by deleting them. This is disgusting. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 20:23 | answer | added | Jon Ericson | timeline score: 77 | |
| May 30, 2023 at 20:11 | history | edited | starball | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 20:09 | history | edited | GlorfindelMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 19:32 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Sure, the company had a string of rather negatively received announcements lately, but that doesn't mean that much has changed. The network does still function more or less exactly the way it functioned last year. Why now the big outcry? And what exactly is the criticism? Some ominous moderator rules that may or may not impact the content. And a general disconnect and feeling of neglect. But isn't this almost the same everywhere else? Why expecting more from Stackoverflow than from others? And laying off staff is probably nothing that the company does to hurt the community. So what's new now? | |
| May 30, 2023 at 18:22 | answer | added | Resistance Is Futile | timeline score: 69 | |
| May 30, 2023 at 18:02 | comment | added | Resistance Is Futile | @SPArcheon such wide user strike will not happen. Even during Monica there was vast number of users that haven't changed their interaction with the sites and I have a feeling that this time even mods and curators striking might not be enough. Back then there was still the need to maintain content quality (selling the company has not yet happened), and I don't think that quality matters any more. It will be just squeezing money as much as possible until everything completely falls apart, but at least numbers will be good while going all the way to hell. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 17:56 | comment | added | SPArcheon | @Mithical oh, we can and should do worse than a "mod-only" strike. Users should join too. Stop answering, stop working on the review queues, let them realize that getting new question isn't that great if they are unreadable and unanswered... | |
| May 30, 2023 at 17:53 | comment | added | SPArcheon | @ResistanceIsFutile to be fair, I had a bad felling since Monica. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 17:12 | answer | added | wizzwizz4 | timeline score: 128 | |
| May 30, 2023 at 16:59 | history | edited | Spevacus | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 16:22 | comment | added | Makoto | You must be new around here. I kid, I kid, but we've had so many iterations of Stack Overflow Inc not caring all that much about the backbone that makes it successful to begin with, they're turning into anime story arcs at this point. Maybe if I'm so inclined later this evening, after work, I'll write up a more coherent response than this passing remark. But hey, maybe it was a blessing in disguise that you didn't get hired here? | |
| May 30, 2023 at 16:00 | comment | added | Largato | It seems to me that the emperor's new clothes is that current structure only wants the numbers, there's no interest in content quality as an essencial feature (can't speak for management, but the path is very clear now, action after action, in a constant way). That seems to me a decision, not a mistake. And I mean it, I'm not writing with any significant emotion attached. Perhaps one or other cares about, but in the end, we are skating uphill. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 15:58 | history | edited | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 15:54 | comment | added | Oleg Valter is with Ukraine | Folks, I get the irony, but voting to close it for lacking focus... seriously? All of the questions outlined by JG in the post form a single complex issue that many of us would like SE to address. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 15:47 | answer | added | Andy | timeline score: 60 | |
| May 30, 2023 at 15:31 | review | Close votes | |||
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| May 30, 2023 at 15:29 | history | edited | Spevacus | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
The colon additions seem to be against the grain of what was being said: "We've got features we don't really need prioritized" - "features that we've asked for in deep backlog"
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| May 30, 2023 at 15:06 | history | edited | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 15:00 | comment | added | Andreas moved to Codidact | Congrats, everybody. SE completely ignored every single response to Community is the future of AI. Today is our Birthday, and it sucks. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 14:47 | comment | added | Resistance Is Futile | I had bad feeling ever since that "Community is future of AI" blog post. I am still hanging around... but I have significantly cut my activities. I am just tired of everything... | |
| May 30, 2023 at 14:41 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | @Mithical well, the impact is even bigger and worse than the Monica scandal. So yeah, something should be done. :/ | |
| May 30, 2023 at 14:40 | history | edited | Elements In Space | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 13:42 | comment | added | Mithical | @wizzwizz4 - Sure, but having concrete demands and some organization helps the possibility of some of those demands being somewhat met. It had a measure of success last time. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 13:41 | comment | added | wizzwizz4 | @Mithical It's not even the kind of strike that needs to be organised. It'll just happen by default. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 13:40 | comment | added | Mithical | I'd note that moderators and curators are considering a strike in response to some of these issues. | |
| S May 30, 2023 at 13:30 | history | edited | rene | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S May 30, 2023 at 13:30 | history | suggested | Adriaan | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 13:28 | answer | added | Mad Scientist | timeline score: 72 | |
| May 30, 2023 at 13:23 | history | edited | Elements In Space | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 13:21 | history | edited | Shadow Wizard | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2023 at 13:20 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | Well, this should have been said by someone, at some point. Kudos for being the one who say it, and in an excellent way. | |
| May 30, 2023 at 13:13 | history | asked | Journeyman Geek | CC BY-SA 4.0 |