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4While we're at it, let's remove badges that incentive certain behaviours which will stop gold tag badge holders from closing duplicates. After all that only requires co-ordinated voting.– AncientSwordRageCommented Dec 4, 2022 at 12:52
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6There's a human factor to "community roles" that casting this as a coding problem completely misses.– uhohCommented Dec 4, 2022 at 13:34
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@uhoh yeah, humans generally suck. That's something we are all aware of. This will not make them suck less, and has the unbound potential to make them suck much more. I prefer solving the "coding" problem first, because that's something that we haven't done in years, which we spent trying to solve the people problem with coding solutions. (BTW, it makes the most sense from a resource allocation standpoint, since better tooling can be measured for success and once you invest on it, it pays forever).– BraiamCommented Dec 5, 2022 at 20:44
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7@Braiam oh I see what you did there, started with "yeah" followed by a statement exactly opposite of how I feel.– uhohCommented Dec 5, 2022 at 20:58
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@uhoh no, it's not opposite of how you feel, it's explaining from where that feeling comes from and teaching you about it, so you can recognize it and see how the solution that I add later on is superior. In summary, I'm saying that we all suck, but that doesn't mean that we should make us suck extra, which is why your argument of "casting as a coding problem" is misguided.– BraiamCommented Dec 6, 2022 at 15:02
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3@Braiam I like the way SE has generated large and vibrant "communities" (really loose groups) of people working together and agreeing to some basic and decent principles, and how the platform has grown to encourage this through both coding and listening efforts. The proposal in the question is meant to be a way to foster additional participation at the human level. It could be that spending too much time in the coding SE sites has exposed you to an elevated level of "suckiness" and some more time in some of the other 170 SE sites might broaden your perspectives on the value of community...– uhohCommented Dec 6, 2022 at 22:12
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2@uhoh and I'm telling you that it will not. Every time that has been tried it fails. Hell, even Wikipedia literally have the same privileges that we use except that you have to "request" for it. So, lets stop distracting ourself with "humanity" and give tooling. We haven't had any tooling in YEARS. We are due such things.– BraiamCommented Dec 8, 2022 at 0:15
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1@AncientSwordRage I think the problem with gold badges isn't that they exist, it's that it's limited to a single reason. Free it for all reasons and you will see a more "normal" behavior.– BraiamCommented Dec 10, 2022 at 11:31
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2@uhoh SO is designed to use gamification to motivate behaviors. Roles will only serve to limit the number of players and pigeon hole the participants. How does that improve engagement?– jpmc26Commented Dec 10, 2022 at 21:19
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2"There's no rule that says that you can't coordinate with others to make sure questions get the attention they deserve" - unless people decide you're operating a voting ring.– Karl KnechtelCommented Mar 15, 2023 at 4:50
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