Timeline for Testing three-vote close and reopen on 13 network sites
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| Dec 27, 2022 at 3:36 | comment | added | JamieB | @GuilhermeNascimento I think that depends on the site, and is subjective. There was a debate on SciFi about the value of story identification. Isn't it only useful to the asker? But I find it entertaining, and get some good "next book or movie" ideas out of it, so I like reading it all. Arqade went the other way and refuses identification questions. Consequently, though, Arqade is way more dead than it should be, mostly answering obscure questions about Minecraft servers. "Good content" should always be appreciated, within some measure of reason. Rules that close good content are bad rules. | |
| Jun 3, 2021 at 18:00 | comment | added | Werlious | I believe all this is a good analogue of the general attitude on the stack network | |
| May 5, 2021 at 4:54 | comment | added | Korvo | @trlkly I disagree with turning the site into a "helpdesk" to solve problems that are only pertinent to the OP, the questions have to serve as a "knowledge repository" (good questions that serve other people as well). | |
| May 5, 2021 at 4:46 | comment | added | trlkly | @GuilhermeNascimento All they appear to be saying is that they are wary of making closing easier when it seems there's not a robust procedure in place to help Askers improve their Questions. Askers improving their Questions helps with both goals you mention. | |
| May 5, 2021 at 3:32 | comment | added | Korvo | So do you want the site to be a helpdesk with questions asked anyway to meet only the need of the OP rather than a knowledge repository with elaborate questions that can serve different people with similar problems? | |
| May 5, 2021 at 0:26 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | I suspect "further" flexible vote thresholds would be a seperate meta question. Also close and reopen votes are tied together so a 'harder' closure also means more difficult reopening | |
| May 4, 2021 at 19:28 | comment | added | Werlious | When I said easy to fix, I meant for newer users, who don't really have an idea of what to fix. Obviously, now I know how to edit and have questions reopened, but I was also a new user at one point, who knew nothing about editing or reopening questions. All I'm saying is, people are a bit too vicious when it comes to closing posts, and from experience, that can really deter a new user away from the site(s). | |
| May 4, 2021 at 14:37 | comment | added | Ekadh Singh - Reinstate Monica | @rene I know, I never said that questions should be harder to close, in fact I completely agree with the changes Catija made, I was just playing devils advocate. As far as I can tell, the new changes will (hopefully) make good questions get re-opened again too more often too, so I see this as an absolute win. Just like playing devils advocate :) | |
| May 4, 2021 at 14:32 | comment | added | rene | @EkadhSingh I'm aware that the SO scale of things don't help in effectively curating posts that needs curating and I appoligize for my laziness. But making it harder to close vote stuff while my gut says that 85% of new questions (on SO) should be closed is not something I can support. I would love that all curating and all review queues work and are effective. it should, given the premise that the SE Q/A model wants to be better then a forum. We only need a couple of thousand voters / reviewers each day to get that back on-track. | |
| May 4, 2021 at 14:14 | comment | added | Ekadh Singh - Reinstate Monica | @rene that maybe so (that questions can get re-opened outside of the queue), but most closed questions that are edited never get reopened, see this SEDE query which shows that that statistic is around 15%. Obviously, most edits will be trivial, but I doubt (have no evidence to back this up though) that only 15% of edits are nontrivial. | |
| May 4, 2021 at 13:15 | comment | added | rene | @EkadhSingh it doesn't need a re-open review. You can re-open vote on any closed question. The lack of guidance how to proceed when a question gets closed is a problem. No one seems to be able to find the info we have on that but strangely enough they do find the whine button under their posts, on Meta, chat and Twitter. And during all those complaints not a single character is improved on the closed question. Such a shame. You're accepted as my advocate. I need one. | |
| May 4, 2021 at 11:38 | history | edited | This_is_NOT_a_forum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading [<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/two_pennies%27_worth#Noun> <http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance> (the last section)].
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| May 4, 2021 at 8:18 | comment | added | Sebastian Simon | Please see How long should we wait for a poster to clarify a question before closing?. As an OP, the appropriate response to a closed question is to edit the question to provide the missing details or focus or clarify the question. Then it can be reopened. | |
| May 4, 2021 at 6:51 | comment | added | rene | We have been asking for years to lower the cv threshold: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/391832/… let's at least wait for another 6 to 8 years before reversing that decision. | |
| May 4, 2021 at 6:48 | comment | added | Meta Andrew T. | It seems you haven't known about the never-ending Close review queue problem on Stack Overflow... | |
| May 4, 2021 at 6:48 | comment | added | rene | If it is easy to fix then the OP has all the chance to do so. Either after the first close vote came in or after closing. You do know questions can get re-opened, right? | |
| May 4, 2021 at 6:44 | history | answered | Werlious | CC BY-SA 4.0 |