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Did you read the post? because it explains that they talked with the design team and lists examples of issues they were trying to solve.
– Em C
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 22:27
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@EmC The fix is worse than the problem they were trying to change, at least for stackoverflow. Removing the extra contrast is going against the writer's intent. The nesting issue is irrelevant to stackoverflow users. The issue regarding images is not really relevant either for stackoverflow users as pictures are rarely welcome on coding questions and answers.
– chqrlie
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 22:36
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There are sites other than SO on the network, you know. "Writer's intent" makes no sense here; quote markup is for quotes always and authors have never had individual control over the styling of quote markup on their particular post.
– Em C
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 22:38
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@EmC: stackoverflow accounts for 90% of Stack Exchange traffic. Any wide ranging changes should be carefully studied and discussed. Authors have never had individual control of the styling, but they have made decisions based on then current rendering methods. Drastic changes to the rendering such as this does infringe on their intent. I am just a regular contributor to SO (top 0,16%) and that's the way I feel about this. I don't know about others, but your arguments are not very convincing. A simple vote of contributors, possibly on a site by site basis, would seem logical.
– chqrlie
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 22:43
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@EmC: This is not my opinion at all, I am questioning the decision process: changes that affect the behavior of the site should not be decided in a closed cenacle. Changes to the look of their contributions should be voted upon by contributors, weighted by contribution amount, which is a good measure of the time spent creating value for the owners.
– chqrlie
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 23:08
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Why does a background formatting change break behavior? Be more specific. Give examples of actual non-abuses of markup that this broke. They asked for feedback on this very post and they responded to that feedback in comments and in the edit. Right now your post just reads like "I don't like change".
– Em C
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 23:25
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The question says we propose this and that, the answers insist on the proposal not being very pertinent. So why was it put in production?
– chqrlie
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 23:38
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Because... all the other reasons listed in the post? The past meta posts, the contrast issues, the theming issues? Why shouldn't it have been? You've still failed to provide any concrete examples as to why this is actually bad.
– Em C
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 23:40
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Did you read the answers? 113 votes for Yellow may not be the answer, but removing the colored block entirely doesn't seem useful. 55 votes for This is a retrograde step for sites that need quotes to be differentiated from text. ...
– chqrlie
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 23:42
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See, those are someone else's answers, not this answer, which still doesn't have any specific examples of things you think this broke.
– Em C
Commented Mar 14, 2020 at 23:53
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@EmC I personally think the change reduces the contrast of blockquotes in all my answers that have one and thus break my intent. It is certainly just my opinion, but the other answers I quoted share this opinion.
– chqrlie
Commented Mar 15, 2020 at 0:13
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Setting aside Stack Overflow, this change causes problems elsewhere as well - see illustro's highly upvoted answer which explains how this is an issue on RPG.SE.
– V2Blast
Commented Mar 16, 2020 at 8:19
(1) There was an election. This was it. As you point out, the proposed change lost. However, Stack Exchange is not a democracy, so corporate leadership (?) did what they decided to do and (surprise!) ignored the community. (2) I agree with your opinions. However, they are opinions.   P.S. Do you know what “IMHO” stands for?
– Scott - Слава Україні
Commented Mar 18, 2020 at 4:33
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@Scott: In my humble opinion, but I am an optimist and quoting the late French president J.Chirac, Il n'y a que les imbéciles qui ne changent pas d'avis ; c'est ce que j'ai toujours dit.
– chqrlie
Commented Mar 18, 2020 at 7:22

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