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    I have nothing to say, but "yay"!
    – M.A.R.
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 16:39
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    In Phase 2, please clarify what you mean by "as it becomes available". In particular, when do you expect privilege threshold increases to be "available"?
    – 200_success
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 16:46
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    @Catija: Yes... sort of. One of the reasons we started working on design-independent graduation was the growing list of sites that were cleared to graduate and whose moderator teams needed some extra support. Rather than select more pro-tem moderators while they waited for designs, it seemed best to give them elections ASAP.
    – hairboat
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 16:50
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    @200_success I appreciate that you do not, in any sense, want to be strung along. We have one designer working on site designs these days at any given time. Does this allow me to tell you what and when? No, I'm afraid not. One of the main goals here in breaking this down into smaller components is to allow us to better see and alleviate bottlenecks. I can't give you a more specific answer, but I'm glad you're keeping us accountable.
    – Ana
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 16:54
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    @200_success This is different in that it provided the information that this, in its current form is moving forward. We're also aware that some of the community requested and would have preferred the rep levels be decoupled from site designs, but we weren't able to do that at this point. (Of course, I said all that above but hey, I don't mind reiterating.)
    – Ana
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:00
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    @abbyhairboat Is ELL on that list?
    – Catija
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:01
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    @200_success What antecedent? The previous post was a question asking whether the community supported the concept and this is telling us that "we've heard you and we're implementing it"...
    – Catija
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:03
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    @abbyhairboat Is there an official list of sites available yet, or will sites find out on a case-by-case basis?
    – HDE 226868
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:07
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    @Catija It's the "we heard you" but we-aren't-really-listening aspect that concerns me. Code Review has… um… very mixed feelings about this, which is why I'm probing to see exactly what this announcement means.
    – 200_success
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:11
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    @200_success: Come on. You know we hear you. We are listening. We can't implement every piece of feedback we receive, and we can't customize every process for each community. But that doesn't mean we don't care, or don't consider it. The team has spent a lot of time and energy trying to understand Code Review's concerns and it's unfortunate that we're still not in a position to allay them. To imply that we aren't listening or don't care about them is just disingenuous.
    – hairboat
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:16
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    What is the hold up on Designs ?
    – Malachi
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:45
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    Does this mean that while phase 1 is going forward you are still considering whether to decouple the phase 2 changes? Or that unless something changes, two phases it is? I'm having trouble parsing the "for now..." paragraph.
    – otus
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:50
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    @abbyhairboat If the 'lot of time and energy' doesn't result in communication and instead results in many years of promises without results, is it a surprise that many users think that you don't care or don't consider it? Note: I am not saying that you don't care nor don't consider it. Nor do I believe it. I am simply saying, lack of communication leads to a perception of these things among many users.
    – durron597
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:51
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    @otus We just made this change, and I don't have that kind of information for you yet. We're trying this out, and there's also been a lot of interest in even further adjustments/deconstructions of graduation and the site life cycle. What we're announcing here, for sure, makes all that easier. But that's the best I've got right now.
    – Ana
    Commented Aug 19, 2015 at 17:57
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    I still don't understand why "privilege thresholds are increased" is in Phase 2. If a site wants its thresholds increased, can't or won't SE provide that in Phase 1? Is there any reason why SE defers that to Phase 2? I can understand delaying site design/redesign (i.e. lack of design team bandwidth), but changing privilege thresholds is surely just a per-site config change?
    – ChrisW
    Commented Aug 20, 2015 at 0:35