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Earlier this week, Qualcomm announced its latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 mobile chip and platform, promising to "revolutionize flagship smartphones" with "groundbreaking" experiences. The new chip is expected to launch in flagship Android smartphones later this year, but benchmarks suggest it cannot compete with Apple's A16 Bionic chip, which powers iPhone 14 Pro models.

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While the latest chip won't officially ship in smartphones for a few months, Geekbench scores for the chip have already been spotted in an unreleased Android handset. According to the results (via DealNTech), the latest Snapdragon 8 chip scored 1483 in single-core and 4709 in multi-core. The A16 Bionic scored 1874 in single-core and 5372 in multi-core. For comparison, the A15 Bionic chip, found in the iPhone 13 Pro and the lower-end iPhone 14 models, also scored higher than Qualcomm's latest chip with 1709 in single-core compared to 1483.

In a press release for the new chip, Qualcomm said it will "define a new standard for connected computing, intelligently engineered with groundbreaking AI across the board to enable extraordinary experiences." Qualcomm's senior vice president and general manager of mobile handsets, Chris Patrick, said, "Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 will revolutionize the landscape of flagship smartphones in 2023."

Compared to the first-generation Snapdragon 8 chip, Qualcomm says the newer platform offers a 35% increase in CPU performance, a 25% increase in GPU performance, and an increase in power efficiency. In 2020, Apple's A14 Bionic and even the A13 Bionic chip from the year earlier beat Qualcomm's Snapdragon 888 chip that launched on Android devices last year.

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Performance claims made by Apple during the iPhone 14 Pro's keynote in September

The A16 Bionic chip in the iPhone 14 Pro, like the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chip, is built on TSMC's 4nm process, and both offer improved performance and energy efficiency. The A16 Bionic chip features 16 billion transistors, a 6-core CPU, a 5-core GPU, and a 16-core Neural Engine. "The competition is still working to catch up to the performance of the A13, which we first introduced with iPhone 11 three years ago," said Greg Joswiak, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing, during the Apple event in September.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Pro's A16 Bionic Outperforms Latest Snapdragon 8 Chip Coming to Android Phones Later This Year
 

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Earlier this week, Qualcomm announced its latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 mobile chip and platform, promising to "revolutionize flagship smartphones" with "groundbreaking" experiences. The new chip is expected to launch in flagship Android smartphones later this year, but benchmarks suggest it cannot compete with Apple's A16 Bionic chip, which powers iPhone 14 Pro models.
And Qualcomm is pitching, "An AI marvel that defines a new premium standard for connected computing,”
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https://www.qualcomm.com/products/a...-platforms/snapdragon-8-gen-2-mobile-platform
 
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Apple's hardware continues to be impressive, but most users probably care most about the power efficiency.

Comparing benchmark scores has become a bit of a pointless exercise, really, when we're completely honest. They are all overpowered for what you really need in a phone.
 

Michael Scrip

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Apple's hardware continues to be impressive, but most users probably care most about the power efficiency.

Comparing benchmark scores has become a bit of a pointless exercise, really, when we're completely honest. They are all overpowered for what you really need in a phone.

True... but there's also the idea that the faster you can get the work done... the faster you can put the chip back to a lower-voltage state.

I think they call it "race to sleep"

Plus... I'd say most of the common low-level work is handled on the efficiency cores without ever needing to fire-up the performance cores. That's another way modern chips are more efficient.

:)
 

Malus120

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And in other news water is wet...

Seriously. Apple's so far ahead of the rest of the ARM ecosystem that it's not even a contest. The new Snapdragon likely can't compete with the A12~A13 in single core, let alone the A16...
(to be fair no ARM vendor can. Although this isn't to say that other ARM chips are bad, they just have different design goals/transistor budgets. In reality, we're far past the point of diminishing returns for everyday use in smartphones)
 

contacos

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Apple's hardware continues to be impressive, but most users probably care most about the power efficiency.

Comparing benchmark scores has become a bit of a pointless exercise, really, when we're completely honest. They are all overpowered for what you really need in a phone.

Indeed. We hit peak years ago and lets be honest, apps are always optimised to make sure they run smoothly on the oldest supported device and not the latest.
 

laptech

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My reply to that is 'So what!!'. They are mobile phones and i plan to use it as such, make calls, do some text messaging, take the occasional picture here and there. I am not wanting it to get me to the moon so who cares about how fast it's processing chip is...big deal.
 

Shirasaki

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Yay, can run genshin faster than Qualcomm chips!
with always horrible experience.
What’s the point of this kind of meaningless benchmark Comparison?
Software plays an even bigger role today than ever and id say optimisation is far more important than sheer brute force on developing more powerful hardware, even though having faster underutilised hardware is always a better problem to have.
 

Powerbooky

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"extraordinary experiences" ... yeah, right... you can have the most sophisticated and fast hardware, without good software there's nothing of a so called "experience" at all.
 

leman

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In the CPU department, Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is at best A14 level. It is faster in multi-core only because Qualcomm chooses a 1+4+3 configuration where Apple has a 2+4 configuration. In particular, Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 will be likely slower than A14 when running two intensive threads.

What's more interesting is the GPU. There were some early reports about the new ARM GPU outperforming the A16, but so far there has been no confirmation.
 
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