Groundbreaking.Correction: “smaller iphone 16 pro gets camera feature that larger iPhone 15 pro had.”
It’s the same story every year.
Groundbreaking.Correction: “smaller iphone 16 pro gets camera feature that larger iPhone 15 pro had.”
Where did I said "optical" ?Which phones have 100x optical zoom?
If you are talking about interpolated digital zoom then what is the point? And do you carry a tripos around with that phone?
iPhone 16 = iPhone 15 = iPhone 14 = iPhone 13 = iPhone 12. That’s 5 years of Apple innovation and you’ll only see this coming from Apple! 🤑“iPhone 16 gets feature iPhone 15 had.”
Almost every brand is on par with the iPhone Pro these days and in many ways surpass the iPhone with better camera systems, screens, RAM and even speed.Where did I said "optical" ?
the point is that you get better zoom photos ? not sure what tripos is but if you are talking about tripod it's certainly not mandatory.
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Optical zoom is the important measure. Anything else is just resizing the image after it is taken which you can do virtually infinitly in software but doesn’t add any detail. The results are not as good as an actual optical zoom.Where did I said "optical" ?
the point is that you get better zoom photos ? not sure what tripos is but if you are talking about tripod it's certainly not mandatory.
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Other brands are able to have very good zoom capabilities with crispy and sharp natural looking photos. Maybe Apple should outsource the camera systems to Samsung.Optical zoom is the important measure. Anything else is just resizing the image after it is taken which you can do virtually infinitly in software but doesn’t add any detail. The results are not as good as an actual optical zoom.
I know that the Samsung phones have a 10x zoom. They can likely do digital zoom to much larger ranges but its just a visual trick, not an actual zoom.
”Tipos” was supposed to be “tripod”. You will need something to stabilize the camera if you are using longer optical zooms. Otherwise your hand shaking will make everything blurry.
There is little need for super long zooms in a portable device. the longer zooms require much bigger camera elements and that size grows exponetially with the zoom factor. No one wants to carry that around. If you do, you’ll bring a traditional camera with the big zoom lens.
The iPhone camera setup is just three fixed focal length lenses paired with three separate sensors, so it is basically just three prime lenses.I just want a prime lens.... never cared for smartphone zoom lens compared to my dslr.
So buy a Pixel. Why buy something from a completely borked lineup (your words).i’m not chasing this zoom again - overspent for a 15 pro max & i’ll be trading in for whatever is the smallest model in the 16 lineup non pro. the whole phone lineup is borked. need to make ONE phone lineup then its all profit you dummies.
Did you ditch your camera gear for the simplicity of having one device that takes decent photos or do you still have a separate camera set up?You've made me realize me that, having donated the dust-collecting dslr and zoom lens, I no longer own anything that could zoom in on the neighborhood. iPhone Pro is not for me, so maybe some compact binoculars are in order.
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Maybe your iPhone is not switching to the 5X lens. This also happens on Android phones but those devices let you control that behaviour.The 5x zoom on my 15pm isn’t any better quality than pinching to zoom 5x. It’s just as blurry and lacks detail. Zoom to nowhere
I also use a Sony camera when travelling, the iPhone cannot replace a professional camera but there are situations where the flexibility that the iPhone offers is unbeatable, and when it comes to video, when using Log (and/or ProRes) it can actually do really great stuff.Did you ditch your camera gear for the simplicity of having one device that takes decent photos or do you still have a separate camera set up?
Just curious as I always went with the highest tier model every 2-3 years for the camera but realizing maybe I should invest in a mirrorless and take up a new hobby.
Apple could… but it will cost Apple a few more dollars per iPhone and a few more dollars to up the RAM as well. Timmy will tell you that you don’t need it. Timmy is afraid getting less pennies per iPhone.2016 - iPhone 7 Plus [2x zoom]
2020 - iPhone 12 Pro Max [2.5x zoom]
2021 - iPhone 13 Pro and 13 Pro Max [3x zoom]
2023 - iPhone 15 Pro Max [5x zoom]
Why can't Apple go the Samsung [Galaxy Ultra] route? A dedicated lens for each: 0.5x, 1x, 2x, 3x, 5x, 10x
Nope. The iPhone doesn't win any of those categories, but it delivers the most consistent experience among all of those categories you pointed out.Almost every brand is on par with the iPhone Pro these days and in many ways surpass the iPhone with better camera systems, screens, RAM and even speed.
The only premium of the iPhone is its price.
Too much for what? Depending on what you are trying to do 5x is definitely not too much, or even merely enough.4x is the sweet spot. 5x is too much. And anything beyond 5 is ridiculous
I’m legitimately curious what you’d like to see changed about the iPhone lineup. Smartphones are mature platforms where there’s not much more that can be done with them outside of iterative upgrades, sort of like how laptops have been for the past 10 years. Yes, some Android phone makers deploy things before Apple, but that’s usually tech that isn’t ready for prime time yet (foldable displays, under display cameras, ridiculously pixel-dense camera sensors).Every iPhone rumor now just seems to be another round of "meh...who cares..."
This product line is so boring now
I can't believe this is all Apple is ever willing to do anymore ... just tiny little spec bumps to a camera or a super minor dimension change, etc
Yeah i think that makes sense for what a phone cam does. If you want to take better photos than a tiny lens on a tiny sensor & an algorythm can put together, thats what real cameras are for.iPhone doesn't stand out in any particular category anymore but you can expect it to do almost everything in a reliable way.
Phone camera is different than DSLR or such, processing matters a lot more and other competitors while still using digital zoom, they are far far superior than what 15PM can capture. tripod isn't "needed" if phone has good stabilization already, I have seen a lot of people doing these crazy high zoom in concert or stadium by just using their bare hands.Optical zoom is the important measure. Anything else is just resizing the image after it is taken which you can do virtually infinitly in software but doesn’t add any detail. The results are not as good as an actual optical zoom.
I know that the Samsung phones have a 10x zoom. They can likely do digital zoom to much larger ranges but its just a visual trick, not an actual zoom.
”Tipos” was supposed to be “tripod”. You will need something to stabilize the camera if you are using longer optical zooms. Otherwise your hand shaking will make everything blurry.
There is little need for super long zooms in a portable device. the longer zooms require much bigger camera elements and that size grows exponetially with the zoom factor. No one wants to carry that around. If you do, you’ll bring a traditional camera with the big zoom lens.
This was probably the first year that other competitors did catch up, 7 years of software update, double the RAM (now that it actually matters and Apple is still going for 8) and SD8G4 is rumored to be better than A18 Pro which if real should be a first in years. 15PM losing to a much cheaper OP12 in terms of battery life + both 14/15 series having bad battery health in general is not a good look either. things were a lot lot better for Apple in 2021.Almost every brand is on par with the iPhone Pro these days and in many ways surpass the iPhone with better camera systems, screens, RAM and even speed.
The only premium of the iPhone is its price.
The Tim formula is widely successful and decidedly boring. Gone are the days of interesting changes and bold designs because they design by committee and exude a very beige feeling in all that they do. I feel like this quote was a defensive self own: “can’t innovate anymore my @$$.” Saying the quiet part out loud. Because Apple institutionally can’t!Every iPhone rumor now just seems to be another round of "meh...who cares..."
This product line is so boring now
I can't believe this is all Apple is ever willing to do anymore ... just tiny little spec bumps to a camera or a super minor dimension change, etc
My only cameras are on my iPhone and iPad, and are rarely used, so I doubt I will ever justify buying a dedicated camera again. My digital camera gear was from 2007, and while it was fun to purchase and tinker with off and on for a few years, I regretted that it was in a drawer unused for so many years, so it went to the charity resale shop.Did you ditch your camera gear for the simplicity of having one device that takes decent photos or do you still have a separate camera set up?
Just curious as I always went with the highest tier model every 2-3 years for the camera but realizing maybe I should invest in a mirrorless and take up a new hobby.
Let me disagree. I have 15PM and my family members 15P. My phone is always better with zoom pictures. Not a lot better, but still visible.The 5x zoom on my 15pm isn’t any better quality than pinching to zoom 5x. It’s just as blurry and lacks detail. Zoom to nowhere
Now that's how you zoom lol!