Timeline for Why do we tell users to comment when they don't have sufficient rep to do so?
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| May 10, 2015 at 11:28 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | @Mitch *sure they both can, but comments are easily deleted by mods and there are all sorts of behavioral attitudes differentiating answers and comments, answers are easily deleted by a single mod, and sometimes these answers have gained a wide consensus from the community. I have seen privileges being abused, which I find difficult to justify. | |
| May 10, 2015 at 11:20 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | Not too sure I'd agree with you there. Idiotic answers are easily spotted and can either be downvoted (which you can't do with comments); or edited and improved on; flagged; or in the end, deleted. Imagine a single user leaving ten comments in ten different posts, all totally unrelated—a nightmare! Now imagine if that were ten users doing the same thing. | |
| May 10, 2015 at 11:19 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | @skymninge "it is not necessarily right to ban new users from commenting" Newcomers aren't banned, they have to demonstrate that they can be trusted. But I do feel the 50 points rep is a little too high. 25 rep sounds more reasonable. And I still think a bad/spam answer is worse than a bad/spam comment.. | |
| May 7, 2015 at 7:00 | history | edited | Erich | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| May 6, 2015 at 21:26 | comment | added | Mitch | @DavidPugh sure they both can, but comments are easily deleted by mods and there are all sorts of behavioral attitudes differentiating answers and comments, making the comments mostly ignorable. I'm not the one you should be arguing with, you should be arguing with the designers of SE, and on meta.SE. | |
| May 6, 2015 at 20:37 | comment | added | David Pugh | @Mitch: I thought the author could delete both comments and answers? | |
| May 6, 2015 at 19:57 | comment | added | Mitch | @DavidPugh I am someone who might be accused of putting answers in comments, but that is a false equivalence. answers put in a comment is very different from comments put in answers. Comments are considered deletable at whim, answers not. | |
| May 6, 2015 at 18:47 | answer | added | hardmath | timeline score: 6 | |
| May 6, 2015 at 16:21 | comment | added | David Pugh | @Erich and Skyminge: I can't remember now how my rep developed, I think I started with a seriously good answer on Travel, and commented only afterwards. But I really appreciate you saying that it's dumb and insulting to tell someone to do X without giving him somewhere in which to do X. Another thing: until the high-reppers desist from putting their own answers in Comments, do they actually possess the moral authority to teach newbies the difference? | |
| May 6, 2015 at 15:02 | comment | added | Nicole | @erich I think it is helpful because now they know what is appropriate for an answer and what would be more appropriate as a comment--something they clearly didn't know before. If new users never learn how to use the site, then they won't develop into serious contributors. | |
| May 6, 2015 at 13:47 | comment | added | Mitch | Erick, @skymninge: I am not against your suggestion, just trying to explain. I changed this to a feature request. I also suggest that you see if it has been discussed already on meta.SE | |
| May 6, 2015 at 13:45 | history | edited | Mitch |
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| May 6, 2015 at 13:16 | comment | added | Erich | @Mitch i agree completely, but telling people "this should have been a comment" is unhelpful if they can't add comments. and i want to do that politely in such a way that they are not scared off and we're not perceived as pedantic curmudgeons. | |
| May 6, 2015 at 13:13 | history | edited | Erich | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| May 6, 2015 at 13:12 | comment | added | skymningen | @Mitch: But as they are in fact allowed to write answers, there is nothing to stop them writing something idiotic. And I still think a bad/spam answer is worse than a bad/spam comment. For example, you could write comments first without earning reputation, but earn reputation (to later write questions and answers) by upvotes to those comments. | |
| May 6, 2015 at 13:10 | comment | added | Mitch | Erick, @skymninge: the point to the SE design (not just ELU) is to stop the flood of idiotic writings by non-serious visitors. For something not idiotic by a new visitor who is serious, it is very frustrating, but the site design is to prevent one-off visitors from influencing the site. The site is engineered to not have an 'add a comment' link for people with low rep. So maybe the message needs to say additionally something about that. If that is what you think then add that to your suggestion (and add the tag 'feature request') | |
| May 6, 2015 at 12:34 | comment | added | skymningen | This also matches my feeling, that is is not necessarily right to ban new users from commenting. I can only speak for myself, but when I started out here I would rather have written one or two comments first and then put up the courage to actually write an answer to something. Comments feel smaller and it feels much better to not get any up vote or reply to a comment than to be told (or just to think yourself) that your answer or question is not relevant because you are not sure how things are handled on this specific SE. | |
| May 6, 2015 at 12:29 | comment | added | Erich | @Mitch the wording there is fine, but it's not geared to new users. it tells the users "you should have posted this as a comment", but for new users, there is no "add a comment" link anywhere. talk about frustrating! | |
| May 6, 2015 at 12:23 | comment | added | Mitch | Sure, but what is your alternative? Is the wording above wrong or just not as diplomatic as you'd like? People are not supposed to put in a comment in the answer box. Why do we tell people to drive on one side of the road? You can drive on either. | |
| May 6, 2015 at 11:37 | answer | added | Chenmunka | timeline score: 4 | |
| May 6, 2015 at 5:09 | history | asked | Erich | CC BY-SA 3.0 |