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July 2

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 2, 2024.

Super Smash Bros. 6

Not mentioned in the target. No information about a video game named Super Smash Bros. 6 exists in the target article or in Super Smash Bros. Mia Mahey (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete as wrong. ultimate is the 5st installment cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 22:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cogsan see below. Some call it the sixth. Not arguing that's correct, but it's plausible at least. Sergecross73 msg me 23:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that's if you ignore the fact that smash for 3ds and that other console are both commonly referred to as "sm4sh", and clumped together as two different flavors of the same installment by pretty much everyone less pedantic than me. ironically, nintendo considers them to be separate, but even the article reduces that to note c, accompanied by "but who cares about those guys, most sources say they're both smash 4" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of that changes that its a plausible search term, with sourcing and notes to clear up confusion. Again, I'm not saying its the sixth title. I'm not arguing anyone should think that. I'm saying its a plausible redirect because some people think that, and some sources outline it. Sergecross73 msg me 13:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daddy Sakurai

vandalism, though i'm probably getting in trouble for how hard it made me laugh at work cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kirby of the Stars

not entirely sure this one should be with the rest as it's a translation of the japanese name for the series, but the same rationale applies cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

japanese kirby time!!

this is also the japanese name for the series. retarget to kirby (series), or leave as is? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Halberd

not entirely sure what makes this halberd that's only mentioned in passing in the target "the", as opposed to the weapon cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as those searching for a halberd are unlikely to be adding a "the" prefix. This could potentially be renamed "The Battleship Halberd" or "Battleship Halberd" since the Halberd is a recurring location in the Kirby series that is highly associated with Meta Knight, thus making it a feasible search target. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Kirby magical items

please define "magical" and "item" in the context of kirby. also there's no such list in the target, i guess cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - This redirect is from a merge consensus at AfD back in 2007. Not sure when the merged content was cut from the kirby article... I'd be interested if it was moved somewhere else, in which case we should retarget it there in order to preserve edit history. If the content is really and truly eradicated from any live article... well, maybe we should consider keeping it for historical edit history purposes anyway, since the content was merged (even if later removed)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fieari (talk • contribs) 07:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    i thought about that for a second, but that's when the definition thing came up, because without some idea of what's "magical" or "an item", a truck would be just as much of a magical item as the star rod, nova, and using your three nearly dead servants as meat shields cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I have never been a fan of the assertion that redirects from merges should be kept if the relevant content is long gone. Also, this redirect going to that target makes absolutely zero sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

World War 5


Not a helpful search term, no mention at target, and not likely to be a typo for somebody searching for World War III. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the best argument i can think of is 5 being right over 2 in most pads. still not a typo you'd make without noticing. delete as implausible cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I created this redirect because World War V and Fifth World War already existed. If you were to propose deleting all of these redirects, then I would reconsider, but I think that keeping those while deleting World War 5 would be quite inconsistent. For reference, a similar discussion took place around "World War VI": Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 26#World War VI. –Gluonz talk contribs 19:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I bundled in other redirects you've found. I don't think josh was suggesting that we only delete World War 5, but just haven't found the other similar redirects. Ca talk to me! 13:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
and delete them too, for the same reason cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ca: I have also found 5th World War (which currently redirects to World war#Potential Third World War) and Ww5 (which currently redirects to World war#Subsequent world wars). –Gluonz talk contribs 21:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Ca talk to me! 11:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No mention of WW5 in the article, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Ca talk to me! 13:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Olympic trials

"Olympic trials" is not unambiguously affiliated with US Olympic trials, other countries and other trials exist. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Today I checked all the links to Olympic trials.(Bryan Leininger, Katie McGregor) They all referred to the United States Olympic trials. Until now there was nobody who used in a different way. IPPON01 (talk) 19:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's incorrect. There were a number of other Olympic trials that had already existed, such as the Canadian curling ones. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a terrible argument to use for keeping, and violates WP:GLOBAL. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Joseph2302: Are you referring to my comment, or the one I'm replying to? Hey man im josh (talk) 22:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dabify or delete generic term, just because a few people incorrectly used the link for US events, that doesn't mean American trials are the primary topic for this. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dabify. The term being used that way on Wikipedia is irrelevant as it's just a mistake unless there are WP:RS that use just "Olympic trials" to refer to the US Olympic trials. If that were the case, I'd reconsider my !vote but even then would it really be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? Nickps (talk) 00:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dabify per WP:GLOBAL: there are other countries that hold Olympic trials. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • DABify per above. I'd also like to mention that current usage of a redirect in mainspace articles is not really a good indicator of whether or not a redirect should be kept... linking a redirect in mainspace should probably, in most cases, be changed to a pipe anyway, and it isn't really the main purpose of a redirect. The main purpose would be to catch searches, assist external links, hold edit history from moves, and other such things. Fieari (talk) 07:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rr'd

vague at best, since there's at least 2 other things "rr" could stand for cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - Google fails me on a technical level here, as they always ignore punctuation in searches. I'm at a loss for what else "rr'd" could mean... what two other things did you have in mind? Fieari (talk) 07:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    among other things i've seen used around places as verbs or verb-adjacent terms accompanied by an apostrophe and a lowercase d, i can name "role reversal", "railroad", some linux debugging thing, "reverse rape", and some fighting game terms i can't remember and won't count as an example cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the partial list. I just want to evaluate each you mentioned in terms of how likely it is to be found in the wild and then searched for. Role reversal sounds like a fanfic jargon term? I guess that's vaguely plausible, but it seems pretty niche. I'm familiar with railroaded as a verb/adjective in a TTRPG context (might also be used when discussing writing stories in general), but don't think I've seen rr'd used for it before. I'll admit it's plausible someone might do so, but I don't think it's common? The linux thing you mentioned is probably rr (debugging), and appending an 'd to it seems pretty natural in context to mean "used the rr tool"... but I'm not sure that would provoke someone to search for the term with the 'd included. I hope reverse rape is another fanfic jargon thing, because if the phrase is appearing often enough in any other community to allow abbreviating it I feel like something is seriously wrong. The only fighting game reference I found to it was a Guilty Gear sequel suffix, and possibly an abbreviation of "round robin", neither of which would get a 'd. My gut reaction comparing these to rickrolling is that rickrolling is much more broadly used and ubiquitous, and thus more likely to be what is being looked for... but it's not a strong enough gut reaction to actually bold a !vote on it. I'd like to see what other people think. Fieari (talk) 07:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    late, but i did some looking and found some instances of "round robin" abbreviated and used as a verb with an apostrophe... on a discussion about sonic the fighters of all games. i don't think it changes my delete vote, but it's really funny that that's the one specific game i happened to find. still, the result was on youtube comments, so eh cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We're no strangers to love

the first line from never gonna give you up, the song used in rickrolls. retarget to its article, or leave as is? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as the most informative target. Someone searching this probably came across someone making a reference to rickrolling somewhere without explaining it, which is entirely plausible. The current target will explain to the searcher what the source media was referencing far better than targeting the song itself. And if they really do want the song, the target will link them to it quickly enough. Fieari (talk) 02:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The RfD from April closed as retarget to Rickrolling as the only article having mention of the lyric words. Jay 💬 17:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scared Silly

normally a little vague, but as a name, it seems more primarily associated with an open season movie cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak DABify - This is the title of the first episode of The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald, and also for the movie Open Season: Scared Silly. I'm uncertain if the Open Season movie is the WP:PTOPIC for the phrase "Scared Silly" specifically, and google shows that it's the title of more things as well, such as a children's novel by Elizabeth Eulberg (no wiki-page), a picture book by Marc Brown (author) (very famous author), a stage play by Peter Bloedel (probably not notable), and likely many more... as this is a common English expression as well! Google does show the movie a bit more prominently than the other entries, mind you, so the PTOPIC argument can certainly be made, but that's why my DABify !vote is weak. Although I will say, if a PTOPIC is established, a disambiguation page should probably be made alongside it and hatnoted. Fieari (talk) 06:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ROnald McDonald

minor capitalization mistake cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Does not help readers since typing "ROnald McDonald" automatically sends you to the correct after even without a redirect page. The consensus I see around RfD is that redirects are not for generic typos. Ca talk to me! 14:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ichtyol

this one, i don't understand. ichtyol seems to be either a type of medicine (or chemical?), a misspelling(?) of "ichthyol", which seems to be a fossil fish oil, or a brand of shampoo. none of those seem to be related to shiitake mushrooms. is there something i'm missing? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shiitake mashrooms

implausible misspelling of "mushroom"? at the very best, i think someone could potentially mishear the "u" depending on the speaker's accent, but that doesn't seem very likely, and u and a are almost on opposite sides of the keyboard cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep - I'm calling this a potentially plausible search based on the fact that the Japanese pronunciation of "mushroom" is マシュルム, which would be transliterated "mashurūmu" but when spoken aloud sounds like "mashroom" (two of the "u"s are nigh-unvoiced). This is only relevant because "shiitake" is Japanese to begin with. The thing that makes it a stretch is that マシュルム, in Japanese, does not refer to shiitake, but only to (western style) button mushrooms... so I'll leave this as a weak !vote. Eh, redirects are WP:CHEAP anyway. Fieari (talk) 03:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Mashroom doesn't exist. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wicked Ways Garbage song

Was missing parentheses. Seems unnecessary now that it has been moved to the correct Wicked Ways (Garbage song). Jameboy (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dumb Garbage song

Was missing parentheses. Not needed now that Dumb (Garbage song) has been created. Jameboy (talk) 11:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hammering In My Head

Seems like an unnecessary capitalisation variant now that it has been moved to the correct "Hammering in My Head" (lower case "in") Jameboy (talk) 11:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1987 European Judo Championships

Deletion. The redirect is misleading, giving the notion that an article exists in templates such as those in Category:European Judo Championships navigational boxes. the redirect also creates a MOS:CIRCULAR loop at the European Judo Championships § Combined Competitions. In addition, in most cases articles linking to the 1987 European Judo Championships missing article also link to the European Judo Championships article, which makes the redirect create an unhelpful MOS:DUPLICATELINK. I suggest we delete the redirect in order to encourage page creation. CLalgo (talk) 08:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Line 4 (Singapore MRT)

Proposing to Delete. Reiterating my rationale at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 15#Line 1 (Singapore MRT). These lines have never been referred to as Line 4, Line 5, etc, but rather directly by their names (Circle MRT line, Downtown MRT line etc). A quick Google search brings up the line numbers in order of their opening (For example, when I search for "Line 5 Singapore MRT", Google brings up Downtown MRT line, which was the fifth line to open in SG, as the first result). Given this, I find it to be an inaccurate search term at best, and if I were to go further, an invalid search term. S5A-0043Talk 07:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SearXNG

The original Searx is no longer supported, and SearXNG is different enough to warrant its own article. I've started a draft here: Draft:SearXNG Benpiano800 (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The target has information about SearXNG. Until the draft is accepted, the redirects provides info, albeit lacking detail. The AfC reviewers will request speedy deletion for the redirect once they accept it. Ca talk to me! 14:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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