Talk:Barbara Blackmun

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Nominator: Vanderwaalforces (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 04:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• It seems that the only thesis the article discusses is a master's thesis. Even though she got a prestigious scholarship, her PhD thesis is not mentioned.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • One paragraph later I see the dissertation stuff. Dissertation needs to be linked.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:00, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Fulbright Program needs to be linked in the article (not just the infobox) since it is such a prestigious program.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:10, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Also link that other prestigious grant.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Both of her schools UCLA and Arizona State University need to be linked in the article.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Were her studies in the UCLA School of the Arts and Architecture, if so that link also needs to be worked into the article.-14:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Did she study in either Herberger Institute for Design and the Arts or New College of Interdisciplinary Arts and Sciences or College of Integrative Sciences and Arts-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done I wikilinked. None of the sources mentions School of the Arts and Architecture, they mostly say UCLA only, so I leave it like that. Sources also do not mention any of Herberger Institute for Design and the Arts or New College of Interdisciplinary Arts and Sciences or College of Integrative Sciences and Arts. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• "She spent her early years in national parks" living or visiting? Also link either List of areas in the United States National Park System or National Park Service. If you can name any specific parks as examples, please do.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:37, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Wikilinked. No specific parks were named in sources, although I could speculate, but still, sources do not mention specific parks. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• What else do we know about her father (name, ethnicity, etc.). Do we have any information on her mother or siblings? Can she be connected to any blue link relatives?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:40, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The only relative I could find, Monica Blackmun Visonà, her daughter, would also be red-linked. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I fear you are overusing redlinks. Redlinks are for subjects where we could reasonably expect an article soon. Just add her in regular text and reconsider all redlinks in this regard.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Four redlinks in an article isn't considered overuse... I have not added her, I was just saying if I should add her, it would be redlinked. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Also link art historian and other jobs in the WP:LEAD.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Also link Antiquities and African art in the LEAD.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Spell out and link all of her degrees (BFA, MA, and PhD).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Link her degree fields such as Fine arts-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• What was the field for her masters?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done Art history too, added now. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• If you were talking about Traditional African masks link that.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done
• Can you name any public schools, or school districts or municipalities that she taught in before her MA.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Apart from San Diego Mesa College, I could not find any other. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:36, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• We need a lot more wikification (linking). Places (towns/cities, countries, deserts, Maravi, Malawi), institutions (University of Malawi)-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done I worked on this, while wikilinks are necessary, we also don't want to use too many, especially because this is not a very long article. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• When you talk about Benin art do you mean Benin Bronzes or Benin ivory mask. Can you work in a link for Kingdom of Benin.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now I see subsequent paragraph. Just please attempt to wikify subjects where the reader might get further information on encyclopedic terms.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Connect/link San Diego Museum of Man with its new name.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:03, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:46, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Make sure that the WP:LEAD summarizes the article. It should include that she was formally trained at US schools (maybe name them), that she taught, and more.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done per WP:LEADLENGTH, I don't think the lead should be longer than this? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Can "computer analysis" or "motif identification" be linked with articles on WP?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:37, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Why is she categorized in 2 American art categories and no African art categories?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:40, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done I added Category:African art curators, can you suggest any other? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Should she be in the child category Category:Nigerian art curators instead?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:25, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Wait. I think I see that these are "African"...."art curators" not "African art"..."curators". Maybe remove the category entirely and just leave American.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Lol, this was what I thought initially when I was creating the article, I thought I was wrong. So, no action here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Her 4 decades at San Diego Mesa College needs to be in the LEAD.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:50, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Sorry. One last thing. UCLA really should be in the opening paragraph since she got 2 degrees there. So you might as well work in ASU.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @TonyTheTiger Would this make it not pass? I can always add that later. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I think UCLA has to be in the LEAD to pass. ASU not necessarily.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:04, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @TonyTheTiger  Done Added it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Probably a bit more extensive an educational addition than is really necessary, but you can feel free to cut it down and back to 2 paragraphs if you like. Well done. Thanks for putting up with me.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Everything now meets WP:WIAGA.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @TonyTheTiger You’re an awesome Wikipedian! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]