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====Statement by My very best wishes====
====Statement by My very best wishes====

====Statement by Marcelus====
As the MVBW edition was about the changes I made to the article and the ongoing discussion between us, I feel obliged to add some context. I have a full understanding of why MVBW made this change in the belief that he was not breaking their ban. In the discussion the topic of "Poland and World War II" was almost completely absent, my edits and discussion were about the whole history of the greeting and its use primarily in the pre-war period. Mainly its use by Ukrainian nationalist organizations. Of course, probably MVBW should have been a bit more careful, but by engaging in an article at first glance completely unrelated to the topic of "Poland and World War II" they understandably lowered their guard more than they would have if they had edited something closer to that topic.[[User:Marcelus|Marcelus]] ([[User talk:Marcelus|talk]]) 22:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)


====Statement by (username)====
====Statement by (username)====

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    Amaaretz

    Amaaretz was not properly notified prior to making the edits which breached the 50/300 rule, but has been so notified now, and has not engaged in further violations since. Amaaretz is cautioned that their edits were in violation of that rule, and now that notification has been made, further edits which violate the 50/300 rule or otherwise cause disruption can be cause for sanction. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:48, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

    This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
    Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

    Request concerning Amaaretz

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    Supreme Deliciousness (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:16, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Amaaretz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    500/30 rule
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 03:36, 7 June 2023 removes that the West Bank is occupied by Israel and changes it to "Israeli West Bank"
    2. 19:32, 7 June 2023 removes that the West Bank is occupied by Israel and changes it to "Israeli West Bank"
    3. 15:05, 15 June 2023 removes that the West Bank is occupied by Israel and changes it to "Israeli West Bank"


    If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)

    I told him at his talkpage about the 500/30 rule:[1] despite this he continued to violate it:[2] --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 19:16, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Additional comments by editor filing complaint

    Seraphimblade, I notified him at his talkpage before his last edit. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 19:57, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    [3]

    Discussion concerning Amaaretz

    Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
    Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

    Statement by Amaaretz

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Amaaretz

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
    • I'm not seeing that Amaaretz was adequately notified of CTOP rules, as per CTOP: Only the officially designated templates should be used for an editor's first contentious topic alert, and these templates may not be placed using a bot or other form of automated editing without the prior approval of the Arbitration Committee. While I would consider an admin action in the absence of clear compliance if there were other, obvious, signs of awareness or severe disruption, I don't see that here. I will now notify Amaaretz using {{alert/first}}, and any further violation of the 500/30 restriction on their part will be cause for sanctions. signed, Rosguill talk 19:28, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • I also don't see that the notification procedure was followed before the edits took place. Supreme Deliciousness, please remember to use the actual templates for notification, not a handwritten message. That said, Amaaretz, you are certainly aware now, so if you continue to violate the 500/30 rule (or otherwise cause disruption) you will very likely be sanctioned. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      I realize that you left a note there, but you did not use the template. AE/CT is one of the cases in which that specific notification format is required. So next time you notify someone about contentious topic restrictions, use the template that Rosguill pointed out for you above. You can certainly leave a custom message in addition to that, but if you do not use the template, it cannot be counted. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:06, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Arbitration enforcement action appeal by DarrellWinkler

    Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear and substantial consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

    To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

    Appealing user
    DarrellWinkler (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Sanction being appealed
    Topic banned from COVID-19, broadly construed
    Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear and substantial consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

    Administrator imposing the sanction
    Courcelles (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
    Notification of that administrator
    The appealing editor is asked to notify the administrator who made the enforcement action of this appeal, and then to replace this text with a diff of that notification. The appeal may not be processed otherwise. If a block is appealed, the editor moving the appeal to this board should make the notification.

    Statement by DarrellWinkler

    Requesting a rollback of protection of several articles related to the topic, when so much additional information on the topic has been published, is in no way disruptive or i violation of the editing sanctions of this topic. I would like my ban lifted. DarrellWinkler (talk) 16:12, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Some corrections to Courcelles above statement
    Despite the characterization that I have been pushing "an agenda for months", I have made exactly one request to have the page unprotected before today. its obvious from the talk page that my concerns are shared by a great number of editors who feel the extended protection is not warranted. The "half-year slow edit war on FCC fairness doctrine" is to stop one or two individuals from constantly removing sourced material. DarrellWinkler (talk) 17:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by Courcelles

    • Interesting, the appellant brings up their recent string of RFPP filings, but not their conduct at Talk:Wuhan Institute of Virology. They’ve been trying to edit with an agenda for months, only stopped by the page being ECP. I won’t push building the case here, but there could be an argument to just indef this editor, as an AmPol2 topic ban could also be justified given edits like [4], [5], and the half-year slow edit war on FCC fairness doctrine. I considered doing so, but decided to try something more moderate first. Courcelles (talk) 16:57, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      @ScottishFinnishRadish, the diff you link as soapboxing was the one I called out as the proximate cause to sanction in the sanction template. (Clarifying since the appellant makes this out as a response to an RFPP filing). Of course, the sentiments expressed at RFPP were problematic, but the act of asking for unprotection itself was not. Courcelles (talk) 18:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (involved editor 1)

    Statement by (involved editor 2)

    Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by DarrellWinkler

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    Statement by Jéské Couriano

    This person strikes me as someone who's trying to needlessly and aggressively play devil's-advocate in several American-politics-related contentious topics (they have warnings for AP2, BLP, and now the topic-ban for COVID). I agree with Courcelles that this is likely best solved with an indefinite block; usually when we see people speedrunning the All CTOPs% category they've got too much of an ideological investment to collaborate or are intentionally trying to pick fights, and in either case the general remedy has been to indef them under WP:DE or WP:NOTHERE. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 17:25, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (uninvolved editor 2)

    Result of the appeal by DarrellWinkler

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
    • I do not think that Courcelles erred in applying the sanction; the editor explicitly stated that they did not intend to respect consensus. As such, I think this sanction is appropriately placed to prevent disruption, and I would leave it in place. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:26, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Concur with Seraphimblade. Looking deeper, I'm seeing a pattern of disruptive editing almost everywhere. There's soapboxing/notaforum, NPOV violation, and adding "Black" to a quote where it was not found in the source. I found those with a few moments of spot checking edits.
      DarrellWinkler, you must comment in your own section, not in other editors' sections or the administrative section. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree with Seraphimblade and oppose lifting the sanction. The diffs uncovered by ScottishFinnishRadish are deeply concerning, especially the falsification of a direct quotation, and are indicative of a broader problem. Cullen328 (talk) 18:15, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Normally I'm in favor of a "let's lift it for now and see what happens to figure out if it is still needed" approach to page restriction requests like this. In this case, Darrell's edits make it clear that the sanctions are still needed, or at a minimum fail to make any viable case for overturning them. If a cabal of "experienced editors" are keeping certain information out of articles (which does happen, though I haven't looked to see if it is or is not happening here), there are methods like noticeboards and WP:RFC for seeking consensus from the broader community. I also agree that this user's edits are an issue, and we should take a look into whether they're enough of a problem to warrant a boomerang here. The WordsmithTalk to me 19:05, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    My very best wishes

    This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
    Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

    Request concerning My very best wishes

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    PaulT2022 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 15:08, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    My very best wishes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    1. Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World_War_II_and_the_history_of_Jews_in_Poland#My_very_best_wishes_bans
    2. Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World_War_II_and_the_history_of_Jews_in_Poland#Impact_on_the_Eastern_Europe_topic_area_(II)
    3. Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Eastern_Europe#Contentious_topic_designation
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 9-13 June: Here, "My very best wishes", in violation of the broadly construed World War II in Poland topic ban, edits an article that discusses WWII monuments in Poland specifically, and buildings constructed by Nazi Germany and Soviet regimes in Eastern Europe more generally, edit-warring to reintroduce poorly sourced POV that has been challenged by multiple editors. (Edit-warring diffs in the comments below.)
    2. 7 June, 17 June: In another violation of the topic ban, MVBW edits an article about a slogan widely associated in the past with OUN, notable for its participation in Holocaust in Poland, and discusses whether a salute used by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, fighting in Poland during WWII, is reminiscent of the salute used by the members of OUN.
    Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

    20 May: My very best wishes was topic-banned from WWII in Poland following a previous arbitration decision.

    If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)

    Alerted about discretionary sanctions or contentious topics in the area of conflict, on the 20 August 2022

    Additional comments by editor filing complaint

    This request isn't merely an attempt to formally escalate arguably marginal topic ban violations. I was involved in the recent Totalitarian architecture AfD and observed how many of the findings from the arbitration case apply to the broader area of MVBW's editing.

    Most of the Totalitarian architecture article, 64% by text, is written by MVBW. It was brought to a second AfD due to synthesis concerns. Half of the AfD participants proposed some sort of WP:TNT option, considering the article to contain synthesis. The statement that "totalitarian architecture" is an architectural style, as well as the thrust of the entire article advocating this viewpoint lacked consensus.

    Following the AfD discussion, User:Paragon Deku rewritten the article on 24 May to rectify concerns expressed by the AfD participants.

    Failing to achieve consensus (for "Style of architecture in totalitarian states" - see AfD, for "officially approved... international style" - see AfD and Talk:Totalitarian_architecture#Recent_changes_(WP:OR)), MVBW resorted to edit warring to restore their original claims from 14 July 2021 on 9 June 2023 and again, after being reverted by SnowFire, on 11-13 June 2023

    This led to Paragon Deku expressing a feeling of burnout on 14 June 2023 after an evident failure of dispute resolution processes.

    There were also multiple instances of edit warring to keep the preferred POV in the article prior to the MVBW's topic ban, for example:

    1. 17 July 2021, 7 May 2023
    2. 23 July 2021, 24 July 2021
    3. 13 July 2021, 20 July 2021, 21 July 2021, 21 July 2021

    I'm bringing up the broader pattern of the MVBW's editing for review as the MVBW's topic ban, in addition to apparently being disregarded by repeated attempts to test its boundaries, failed to improve the editing and talk page behaviour of MVBW in the wider EE topic area, and urging administrators to consider an appropriate enforcement action taking the "Impact on the Eastern Europe topic area (II)" remedy into account.

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    Special:Diff/1161414284

    Discussion concerning My very best wishes

    Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
    Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

    Statement by My very best wishes

    Statement by Marcelus

    As the MVBW edition was about the changes I made to the article and the ongoing discussion between us, I feel obliged to add some context. I have a full understanding of why MVBW made this change in the belief that he was not breaking their ban. In the discussion the topic of "Poland and World War II" was almost completely absent, my edits and discussion were about the whole history of the greeting and its use primarily in the pre-war period. Mainly its use by Ukrainian nationalist organizations. Of course, probably MVBW should have been a bit more careful, but by engaging in an article at first glance completely unrelated to the topic of "Poland and World War II" they understandably lowered their guard more than they would have if they had edited something closer to that topic.Marcelus (talk) 22:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning My very best wishes

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.