Talk:Jonatan Giráldez

Since one editor did not read my edit summaries and has resorted to personal attacks, I'm starting a section here to document the issues. Giraldez assumed head-coaching duties on July 7, 2024, *after* the match against Bay FC. This was confirmed by NWSL boxscore listing Adrian Gonzalez as the manager of record for the July 6 Bay FC match, as well as a separate source this editor had previously included. Seany91 (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Since you did not read the actual text you removed, I'm responding to this section here to document the issues before you unnecessarily edit war instead of discussing.

You first: removed stats for a match that was incorrectly included. This is a good edit.
However, you also edited the note attached to the table to remove the mentions of the Spirit's 2024 stats prior to Giráldez taking over. This has not been explained.

You second: changed the sentence Giráldez chose Adrián González to be his assistant and to manage the team while he completed the European season, before joining the Spirit in June and managing his first match on 6 July 2024. to say Giráldez chose Adrián González to be his assistant and interim head coach while he completed the European season., as well as removing the sentence fragment Taking a 3–0 win in his first game, an away match against Bay FC,. These are good edits.
However, you also removed the following content: In a press conference a week before this, he asked for short-term patience as he adapted to the league, while saying that his goal was to make the Spirit "the best team in America." [...] the NWSL season then had a mid-season break for 2024 Olympic football. The New York Times wrote that the timing of the mandated rest week followed by the new NWSL x Liga MX Femenil Summer Cup would effectively serve as a pre-season for Giráldez at the Spirit.. This has not been explained.

I then made four consecutive edits that reinstated much of this material, while also updating to have the correct date Giráldez took over, including rephrasings for previous content to make sure this was indicated. As various sources (including Washington Spirit themselves, a source I had also previously included) said Giráldez was in charge for the match on 6 July, I decided it would be helpful to include an explanatory note pointing to the link you had previously supplied, to clarify for any reader who may have confusion and make sure other editors don't change it back to what it had been before your edits.

In my first edit reason, I had explained that there was absolutely no reason in the slightest to remove content with previous stats and press conference quotes. I also wrote on your talk page that I have soft-reverted your edits, reinstating all of the perfectly valid information that you had no reason or explanation to remove, while taking your updates. I note these things because I believe you had read these comments before you reverted all my edits without further explanation, and if you had indeed read those comments, you cannot have thought I had merely undone your changes.

I am happy to discuss the inclusion of the content you removed that had nothing to do with the date, but it would need actual discussion to remove, not just lumping it in with a different fact correction. Kingsif (talk) 22:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

• Separately, Seany has added a bunch of tags about prose without starting a discussion on the prose quality. I removed them and told Seany that discussion threads were needed. Seany has re-added the tags with an edit reason saying discussion is ongoing. It is not, this discussion is about specific content, not about unsubstantiated claims of WP:PEACOCK. In that edit, Seany also reverts all my edits again; as the reason only discusses the tags, that is a deliberately misleading edit summary. It is becoming hard to assume good faith. Kingsif (talk) 23:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply