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I was wondering, since multilayer ceramic caps have layers like this:

mlcc

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Aren't they supposed to (for better performance) be soldered on the PCB as the above picture shows aka parallel to the PCB layer, for example like this:

paraller mlcc solder

and NOT vertically like this:

mlcc polarity

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(Which I think will also make the layers radiate around the PCB when their power is noisy and has ripple.)

If "Yes," is there a way to tell which side I will be soldering when I solder with soldering iron/oven?

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    \$\begingroup\$ What performance effect you are talking about, and what would the layers radiate, and if they do radiate something, won't it radiate just as much regardless of how it is mounted? \$\endgroup\$
    – Justme
    Commented Sep 20, 2021 at 13:41
  • \$\begingroup\$ I do not know about performance effect, its just a thought of mine. But well lets say someone designs a PCB for a PC CPU or RAM, he/she will use the best practices/ techniques to design the pcb. Wont this play a major role to such fast signals? Since designers go 'crazy' to use thinner pcbs, route their signals only on top layer etc etc, won't capacitor placement play a role as well? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 20, 2021 at 13:47
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    \$\begingroup\$ @ChristianidisVasileios "Since designers go 'crazy' to use thinner pcbs, route their signals only on top layer etc etc" I doubt any orientation would reduce the parasitic inductance which is the real limiting factor at high frequencies which is why embedded/distributed capacitance PCBs exist. I suspect you don't understand why they do what they do. I've never heard of this only on the top layer business \$\endgroup\$
    – DKNguyen
    Commented Sep 20, 2021 at 13:53
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    \$\begingroup\$ Since the capacitors come in a reel from manufacturer, I suppose it would not be possible, or at least it would take a special step, to mount them on a different orientation they come from factory reel. They may not be specified for other mounting angles, due to mechanical stress if you flex the PCB. And if you want a better capacitor, you would choose one with terminals on the long sides, not on the short side. \$\endgroup\$
    – Justme
    Commented Sep 20, 2021 at 13:58
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    \$\begingroup\$ This question relates to whether or not the plates of the MLCC capacitor should be parallel to the PCB or perpendicular to the PCB when mounted. There are instances of e-noise created by these capacitors. I'm not sure why the accepted answer speaks to tombstone which is an SMA defect on any two terminal component. This excerpt references some of the considerations. ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7930261 \$\endgroup\$
    – naven87
    Commented Mar 5 at 3:32

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The original question was about the MLCC orientation on the PCB and whether better performance could be obtained by mounting the capacitor in the vertical orientation.

This characteristc has been known of since the early days of microwave engineering of the 1970s. Mounting the capacitor in the vertical manner would reduce the occurrence of the parasitic self resonances low down in the rf spectrum. The resonances then only become apparent at much higher frequencies. So the capacitors behave as capacitors and do NOT become inductive till the microwave regions.

The relevant question then is - does this help or is it relevant to the design in question? The answer depends on your application. If you are dealing with very high speed switching designs with very fast rise and fall times and need to exploit the non inductive effects of the capacitor (i.e. minimum L in parasitics) then this is something that would be of good use.

The research has been done by American Technical Ceramics, Johanson, Dilectric Labs, KVX, Waycom and a few others.

Here are a few application notes/papers.

https://www.johansontechnology.com/understanding-chip-capacitors

http://www.electrical-integrity.com/Quietpower_files/QuietPower-30.pdf

Parallel vs Vertical Electrode Mount

https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/218/DLI_catalogue_10021_17-1510962.pdf

https://exxelia.com/uploads/PDF/ceramic-capacitors-catalog-new-62949dc1491f1.pdf

In terms of circuit simulation, Modelithics allows the user to select and exercise this analysis feature.

You would need to work out if this type of capacitor mounting would be of benefit to your design.

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This defect would be called "tombstone" , when a part mounted on its side or it stands up. Generally it is an indicator of quality of manufacture, but on certain applications the orientation may matter electrically or have poor contact.

MLCC generally mounted automatically from a tape and reel in the orientation that is most solderable. A suction nozzle grabs the part and puts it down on the board, the tape and reel technology is designed to have the part in the correct orientation for the automatic equipment.

Occasionally the component is rotated within the tape and reel , a packaging error, this may result in a poorly mounted part and is caught during inspection

For hand soldering, it is generally pretty easy to tell when side is "down" on the capacitor pancake , but with small parts like 0402 or 0603 it is common to tombstone the part when hand soldering for novices. Usually this is only a mechanical concern, but if you believe that there is an electrical need it only reinforces the interpretation of this as a defect.

Very occasionally the part is "square " (usually high density small sized caps), generally the manufacturer does not indicate the preferred axis and it would be considered over constraint for you to prefer an axis, likely for this kind of sensitive application there are specialty caps with asymmetry to have a fixed orientation. (Like a three/four lead feedthrough capacitor)

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    \$\begingroup\$ For example, advanced smt will image every part and discard if the mounting head detects the part is picked up sideways by comparing the image against a 3d model of the part :) \$\endgroup\$
    – crasic
    Commented Sep 20, 2021 at 14:05
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I found something, just the thing I was suspicious about.

4 - PCB antenna impedance matching

Source video

The video doesn't mention anything else but Id like to see such datasheet with a plot about orientation of placement vs L change.

Of course, this is about inductors, the question was about capacitors.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Old answer but this tells me nothing about any answer to the question. I suspect you want viewers to click through to a third-party website to check the actual answer, but that won't work whenever that third-party website changes the URL or removes the content. \$\endgroup\$
    – pipe
    Commented May 7 at 0:12
  • \$\begingroup\$ @pipe no need to click on the 3rd party website, I posted the screenshot. The link to 3rd part website was done in order to post the source of the screenshot. obviously, sources are 3rd party websites. In my mind, it does say something about the direction of placement of components. It speaks about inductors, but capacitors have internal iductance as well right? Anyway, Chris Nick's answer is the better answer I saw, it solved my question. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 7 at 11:28

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