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Identifying Type of Symmetry Operations

From the given set of symmetry operations for a space group, say, P-3m1 or Cmma, how can one identify the type of all symmetry operations. For example, how to distinguish the axis of rotation symmetry ...
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How do we determine the local symmetry of anatase TiO2?

In this physical review B paper, the authors mentioned that the local symmetry of anatase TiO2 is D2d point group. Also, in this applied physics letters paper, the authors mentioned that the symmetry ...
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Electronic configuration and symmetry labels of 3d$^7$ ions

In 3d$^7$ ions, e.g. Co$^{2+}$, the ground state is $^4$F, and it contains different levels due to the crystal field, such as $^4T_{1g}$, $^4T_{2g}$ and $^4A_{2g}$. Can anyone tell me what exactly ...
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How do I assign functions for cartesian coordinates and rotations to irreducible representations of a character table?

I do not really understand the intuition behind the functions assigned to irreducible representations. For example, in H₂O, the A₂ representation is given by ...
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Is there a difference between $A_{1g}$ modes and $A_{g}$ modes?

I know that both are totally symmetric and that the '$1$', according to the Mulliken table, refers to symmetry around the $C_2$ axis but I was reading some papers and found that modes were sometimes ...
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Are A1g modes reduced at 180 degrees polarisation in Raman spectra?

I have read that A1g modes are identifiable in Raman spectra by looking at cross-polarised Raman spectra and seeing peaks that strongly reduce in intensity. So essentially, the intensity of A1g modes ...
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Point group of harmonic oscillator

The book Molecular Quantum Mechanics by Atkins and Friedman [1] says the point group of a harmonic oscillator is $C_\mathrm{s},$ composed by the identity operator $E$ and a reflection $\sigma_\mathrm{...
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Factor Group Analysis of Na2SO4 - Site Group Symmetry

I'm still trying to understand how to construct a factor group analysis for a given molecular point group and the resulting solid state group symmetry. For this I searched for some examples and found ...
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Relation between symmetry of a reciprocal vector and lattice planes perpendicular to it

What is the relation the symmetry of a high-symmetry point in the first Brillouin zone and lattice planes perpendicular to it? Are the two symmetries equivalent? I have this question because I want to ...
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What does it mean that a state belongin to a given irrep transforms like $Rx$, $Ry$ or $Rz$

The present question is related to this other question I did few days ago. Given a point group and the list of the irreps (see for example here) the meaning of an irrep which transforms like $x$ or $x^...
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How do I show that a transition is electric dipole allowed with group theory/symmetry?

This is actually a follow up of this question The follow-up is not because of the electric instead of magnetic dipole (this is trivial). It is because I'm interested in extra info. Suppose I have a ...
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What is m.2m point group?

I'm using Bilbao Crystallographic Server to find 3D crystallographic point groups of the K points of anatase TiO2. Since the space group of anatse TiO2 is $I4_1/amd$, on this page, I found the point ...
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How do we find the SALCs?

I am trying to understand exactly what IRREPs are and, in order to know more about it, I started reading the chem.libretext course on molecular symmetry which up to this point seemed fairly ...
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Using symmetry and group theory arguments to explain iron(II) in a tetrahedral crystal field

I am trying to figure out how to explain $1s \rightarrow 3d$ spectroscopic transitions for $\ce{Fe^{2+}}$ in $T_\mathrm{d}$ symmetry. These transitions make up the pre-edge region in K edge X-ray ...
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Is there a better coordinate framework and symmetry operator for constructing molecular orbitals of molecules with higher-order geometry?

The following excerpt is taken from [1] (with a few rewording, emphasizes are mine). In an attempt to construct molecular orbital (MO) of any molecule, one needs to determine the symmetries of ...
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Tetrahedral complex and vibronic coupling or different rule for d-d transition?

I'm currently preparing a few slides for an upcoming talk in our group. I would like to mention some of the very basics regarding crystal field and ligand field theory as well, though this will not be ...
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Example of an achiral molecule without a plane of symmetry or inversion center?

Some websites, such as this textbook, mention how generally a plane of symmetry or inversion center in a molecule is enough to consider it achiral. Nonetheless, this source clarifies but if these ...
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Symmetry Operation on Product of Functions

In regards to direct product representations, I'm trying to find a proof for: $R(X_iY_j)=R(X_i)R(Y_j)$ Where $R$ is a symmetry operation of a group and $X_i$ and $Y_j$ are members of different basis ...
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$Q_3$ is symmetric with respect to the $\sigma_v$ operation?

I am currently studying the textbook Infrared and Raman Spectroscopy: Principles and Spectral Interpretation, second edition, by Peter J. Larkin. Section 8. Symmetry: Infrared and Raman Active ...
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Is there a geometrically intuitive explanation of the equivalence of the numbers of irreducible representations and symmetry classes?

In group theory, as used in chemistry, we’re familiar with the idea that the number of irreducible representations of a symmetry group equals the number of classes of symmetry operations, e.g. three ...
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How to find a symmetry group of a system if all the symmetry transformations do not obey closure and don't form a group?

For instance, consider a system with $p_x$ and $p_z$ orbitals at the vertices of a square (on xy-plane). A square by itself would have $D_4$ symmetry. However, because of the $p_x$ orbital; the $90^\...
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Why do most character tables include an $(x^2 + y^2)$ term?

Why do most character tables (e.g. $C_{3h}$ but not $C_{2h}$) include an $(x^2 + y^2)$ term? Is it an abbreviated form for $d_{z^2}$, applying only where $3d$ (and higher) orbitals might be involved, ...
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How to define axes if all rotation axes pass through the same number of atoms?

I was wondering how one can define the axes for a molecule with several equal axes of rotation, all of which pass through the same atom. I know that the $z$-axis is usually defined as the principal ...
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Symmetries and degeneracies of the s,p, and d orbitals

Consider the molecular AB_8 (complex with central atom A and 8 B ligands (coordination number 8), for which I determined the point group D_4d) and determine the symmetries and degeneracies of the s, p,...
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Why does dipole must lie parallel to a rotation symmetry axis?

While studying group theory, I've got confused by the following statement: For a molecule to have a permanent dipole moment, it must have an asymmetric charge distribution. The point group of the ...
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How to deal with non-symmorphic space groups for orbital/vibrational analysis?

I am learning about how to apply group theory analysis of MO diagrams and vibrational in the solid state context (not isolated molecules). I think the strategy for calculating representations and ...
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Character table and symmetry operations

It's been a while since I've dealt with these, but do character tables include all possible symmetry operations? I am looking at the $D_\mathrm{\infty h}$ point group table and it lists $C_\infty$, $\...
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Molecular Orbitals (only pi system) of Allyl system using group theory

I have just started reading group theory and their applications in the MO theory. I tried to get the equations of the pi molecular orbitals of allyl system using group theory, but I am stuck at the ...
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Point group from mono to bulk MoS2

Many articles say even numbers of layers or bulk crystal MoS2 have D6h point group and odd numbers of layers (including monolayer) MoS2 have D3h point group But whenever looking at the figure of ...
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Misunderstanding about the spin part of the Jahn Teller effect

In the paper Stability if Polyatomic Molecules in Degenerate Electronic States II - Spin Degeneracy the author wrote: Thus a twofold degeneracy cannot produce instability for a molecule containing ...
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