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yesterday comment added Buck Thorn Evolutionary thinking explains the fluctuations among populations of coronavirus variants, or antibiotic resistance in microbes. These are things we can test experimentally. Why is this mysterious?
yesterday comment added Buck Thorn Interesting that we disagree. I find one can often take evolutionary theories seriously. Good theories are based on a large body of carefully collected and highly detailed physical and chemical data. You don't have to explain the origin of life in order to "believe" Darwinian evolution holds, any more than you have to explain dark matter in order to "believe" gravitational pull is due to a property we call mass.
yesterday comment added ACR @BuckThorn, These are good philosophical ideas. In physics, any theory which does not explain the fundamental questions or behaviors has to be eventually discarded. Evolutionary explanations are also tentative - the day one can explain or even define "life" and ascertain its origins, one might start taking it seriously.
yesterday comment added Buck Thorn As an aside, toxicity is a clever adaptation to avoid consumption by fructivores who will not handle the fruit in the intended manner and disperse the seed.
yesterday comment added Buck Thorn Which would be challenging without color vision. Other factors are important for identifying edible foods, taste [ed: and odor] mainly. See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
yesterday comment added Buck Thorn Like all science, evolutionary theories are developed by constructing and testing hypotheses. There might be multiple explanations for why a fruit would have a red color, say, but without going into too much detail, suffice it to say that the theory of co-evolution of fruit traits and the dietary habits of fructivores is fairly well supported. I agree that, in the wild, fruit color traits have likely rarely been driven by human preferences (since we were until recently not ecologically important), rather by birds and other animals. But we have exploited the trait to identify edible fruits.
yesterday comment added ACR The unit of human progress is very slow, spanning centuries. Same goes with your question, that a ripe fruit looks more attractive, many beautiful colored fruits are highly toxic too. Using evolutionary ideas to explain things like these is like knowing the results and selecting exactly those few points which fit the narrative.
yesterday comment added ACR Buck Thorn, All I wanted to emphasize is that there is no need to provide a reason to every question. We tend to find an explanation to observations, which is a good exercise, but a deeper science history has shown time and again that widely held ideas, once considered to be true, were wrought with fallacies. This will be true for many ideas, centuries later, if the world survives that long! The unit of human progress is very slow, spanning centuries. Same goes with your question, that a ripe fruit looks more attractive, many beautiful colored fruits are highly toxic too.
yesterday comment added Buck Thorn I think you read too much into the question. The OP confused "is emitted" and "is visible [detected by the human eye]". Also, there are probably good explanations regarding evolutionary advantages to having vision in just that region of the spectrum, given the organs our predecessors had and evolution started from. A ripe colorful fruit tastes better than an unripe green one. A coincidence?
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