Skip to main content
Commonmark migration
Source Link

Unfortunately, we've had a problem for quite a while now. It basically boils down to close voting questions with reasons that don't fit. Essentially, the Homework off-topic close reason, "unclear what you're asking", and "too broad" reasons are sometimes used where they make no sense whatsoever.

There's clearly effort in this, so I dunno why anyone would flag it as homework.

 

This question doesn't ask us to do OP's homework for them, so please don't VTC it even if you don't like it.

 

I'm leaving this question open. Not everything that contains more than one question mark is too broad, people.

That was me browsing through my own comments. I am not linking to the specific questions because I don't want this to degrade into a fruitless discussion of whether those specific examples should have been closed.

Comments like those do not necessarily indicate a problem (democratic challenge of a close vote in a democratic setting), but their frequency might, and in light of the recent concerns aired in chat by avid close vote reviewers, we need to take a step back and stop treating close votes like a super downvote.

I would like to make a request to the community to not close vote something with a reason unless the reason specifically applies per its definition:

  • "Too broad" is for posts with either a plurality of questions in a way that breaks the duplicate system, or a single "give me a list of organic chemistry books" question
  • The "Unclear what you're asking" for posts that are clearly unanswerable because of lack of details, which ideally should be pointed out in comments.
  • The homework off-topic reason should be applied to what is perceived as effortless homework. The type of question whose poster is more interested in being fed the answer over learning it.

The bullet points are obviously more restrictive than whatever is being applied now, but they're inherently subjective, and we're over that.

Finally, let me emphasize the point of this meta post: I humbly request that our close voters not vote to close something just to have closed it, and make sure the reason they choose applies. Also, for the moment, I encourage our users to challenge the closure of their question on meta if they believe it's erroneous, and I encourage our reviewers to use the "leave open" option more and in accordance with the fruit of this discussion.

If you disagree with me that there have been nonsensical closures, or that they have been more recurring lately, or if you have an additional comment to make, feel free to do so in the answer section, hence .


I have also heard the argument of "But the question is unlikely to attract high-quality answers" in defense of closing some questions with whatever reason, and indeed that is the purpose of close votes. However, if you can't find a reason to close a question, and note that a custom close reason is good enough, maybe it's just you that doesn't like the question and wants to cast a super downvote.

Unfortunately, we've had a problem for quite a while now. It basically boils down to close voting questions with reasons that don't fit. Essentially, the Homework off-topic close reason, "unclear what you're asking", and "too broad" reasons are sometimes used where they make no sense whatsoever.

There's clearly effort in this, so I dunno why anyone would flag it as homework.

 

This question doesn't ask us to do OP's homework for them, so please don't VTC it even if you don't like it.

 

I'm leaving this question open. Not everything that contains more than one question mark is too broad, people.

That was me browsing through my own comments. I am not linking to the specific questions because I don't want this to degrade into a fruitless discussion of whether those specific examples should have been closed.

Comments like those do not necessarily indicate a problem (democratic challenge of a close vote in a democratic setting), but their frequency might, and in light of the recent concerns aired in chat by avid close vote reviewers, we need to take a step back and stop treating close votes like a super downvote.

I would like to make a request to the community to not close vote something with a reason unless the reason specifically applies per its definition:

  • "Too broad" is for posts with either a plurality of questions in a way that breaks the duplicate system, or a single "give me a list of organic chemistry books" question
  • The "Unclear what you're asking" for posts that are clearly unanswerable because of lack of details, which ideally should be pointed out in comments.
  • The homework off-topic reason should be applied to what is perceived as effortless homework. The type of question whose poster is more interested in being fed the answer over learning it.

The bullet points are obviously more restrictive than whatever is being applied now, but they're inherently subjective, and we're over that.

Finally, let me emphasize the point of this meta post: I humbly request that our close voters not vote to close something just to have closed it, and make sure the reason they choose applies. Also, for the moment, I encourage our users to challenge the closure of their question on meta if they believe it's erroneous, and I encourage our reviewers to use the "leave open" option more and in accordance with the fruit of this discussion.

If you disagree with me that there have been nonsensical closures, or that they have been more recurring lately, or if you have an additional comment to make, feel free to do so in the answer section, hence .


I have also heard the argument of "But the question is unlikely to attract high-quality answers" in defense of closing some questions with whatever reason, and indeed that is the purpose of close votes. However, if you can't find a reason to close a question, and note that a custom close reason is good enough, maybe it's just you that doesn't like the question and wants to cast a super downvote.

Unfortunately, we've had a problem for quite a while now. It basically boils down to close voting questions with reasons that don't fit. Essentially, the Homework off-topic close reason, "unclear what you're asking", and "too broad" reasons are sometimes used where they make no sense whatsoever.

There's clearly effort in this, so I dunno why anyone would flag it as homework.

This question doesn't ask us to do OP's homework for them, so please don't VTC it even if you don't like it.

I'm leaving this question open. Not everything that contains more than one question mark is too broad, people.

That was me browsing through my own comments. I am not linking to the specific questions because I don't want this to degrade into a fruitless discussion of whether those specific examples should have been closed.

Comments like those do not necessarily indicate a problem (democratic challenge of a close vote in a democratic setting), but their frequency might, and in light of the recent concerns aired in chat by avid close vote reviewers, we need to take a step back and stop treating close votes like a super downvote.

I would like to make a request to the community to not close vote something with a reason unless the reason specifically applies per its definition:

  • "Too broad" is for posts with either a plurality of questions in a way that breaks the duplicate system, or a single "give me a list of organic chemistry books" question
  • The "Unclear what you're asking" for posts that are clearly unanswerable because of lack of details, which ideally should be pointed out in comments.
  • The homework off-topic reason should be applied to what is perceived as effortless homework. The type of question whose poster is more interested in being fed the answer over learning it.

The bullet points are obviously more restrictive than whatever is being applied now, but they're inherently subjective, and we're over that.

Finally, let me emphasize the point of this meta post: I humbly request that our close voters not vote to close something just to have closed it, and make sure the reason they choose applies. Also, for the moment, I encourage our users to challenge the closure of their question on meta if they believe it's erroneous, and I encourage our reviewers to use the "leave open" option more and in accordance with the fruit of this discussion.

If you disagree with me that there have been nonsensical closures, or that they have been more recurring lately, or if you have an additional comment to make, feel free to do so in the answer section, hence .


I have also heard the argument of "But the question is unlikely to attract high-quality answers" in defense of closing some questions with whatever reason, and indeed that is the purpose of close votes. However, if you can't find a reason to close a question, and note that a custom close reason is good enough, maybe it's just you that doesn't like the question and wants to cast a super downvote.

Tweeted twitter.com/StackChemistry/status/994343637717782529
corrected use of shorthand tag link
Source Link

Unfortunately, we've had a problem for quite a while now. It basically boils down to close voting questions with reasons that don't fit. Essentially, the Homework off-topic close reason, "unclear what you're asking", and "too broad" reasons are sometimes used where they make no sense whatsoever.

There's clearly effort in this, so I dunno why anyone would flag it as homework.

This question doesn't ask us to do OP's homework for them, so please don't VTC it even if you don't like it.

I'm leaving this question open. Not everything that contains more than one question mark is too broad, people.

That was me browsing through my own comments. I am not linking to the specific questions because I don't want this to degrade into a fruitless discussion of whether those specific examples should have been closed.

Comments like those do not necessarily indicate a problem (democratic challenge of a close vote in a democratic setting), but their frequency might, and in light of the recent concerns aired in chat by avid close vote reviewers, we need to take a step back and stop treating close votes like a super downvote.

I would like to make a request to the community to not close vote something with a reason unless the reason specifically applies per its definition:

  • "Too broad" is for posts with either a plurality of questions in a way that breaks the duplicate system, or a single "give me a list of organic chemistry books" question
  • The "Unclear what you're asking" for posts that are clearly unanswerable because of lack of details, which ideally should be pointed out in comments.
  • The homework off-topic reason should be applied to what is perceived as effortless homework. The type of question whose poster is more interested in being fed the answer over learning it.

The bullet points are obviously more restrictive than whatever is being applied now, but they're inherently subjective, and we're over that.

Finally, let me emphasize the point of this meta post: I humbly request that our close voters not vote to close something just to have closed it, and make sure the reason they choose applies. Also, for the moment, I encourage our users to challenge the closure of their question on meta if they believe it's erroneous, and I encourage our reviewers to use the "leave open" option more and in accordance with the fruit of this discussion.

If you disagree with me that there have been nonsensical closures, or that they have been more recurring lately, or if you have an additional comment to make, feel free to do so in the answer section, hence .


I have also heard the argument of "But the question is unlikely to attract high-quality answers" in defense of closing some questions with whatever reason, and indeed that is the purpose of close votes. However, if you can't find a reason to close a question, and note that a custom close reason is good enough, maybe it's just you that doesn't like the question and wants to cast a super downvote.

Unfortunately, we've had a problem for quite a while now. It basically boils down to close voting questions with reasons that don't fit. Essentially, the Homework off-topic close reason, "unclear what you're asking", and "too broad" reasons are sometimes used where they make no sense whatsoever.

There's clearly effort in this, so I dunno why anyone would flag it as homework.

This question doesn't ask us to do OP's homework for them, so please don't VTC it even if you don't like it.

I'm leaving this question open. Not everything that contains more than one question mark is too broad, people.

That was me browsing through my own comments. I am not linking to the specific questions because I don't want this to degrade into a fruitless discussion of whether those specific examples should have been closed.

Comments like those do not necessarily indicate a problem (democratic challenge of a close vote in a democratic setting), but their frequency might, and in light of the recent concerns aired in chat by avid close vote reviewers, we need to take a step back and stop treating close votes like a super downvote.

I would like to make a request to the community to not close vote something with a reason unless the reason specifically applies per its definition:

  • "Too broad" is for posts with either a plurality of questions in a way that breaks the duplicate system, or a single "give me a list of organic chemistry books" question
  • The "Unclear what you're asking" for posts that are clearly unanswerable because of lack of details, which ideally should be pointed out in comments.
  • The homework off-topic reason should be applied to what is perceived as effortless homework. The type of question whose poster is more interested in being fed the answer over learning it.

The bullet points are obviously more restrictive than whatever is being applied now, but they're inherently subjective, and we're over that.

Finally, let me emphasize the point of this meta post: I humbly request that our close voters not vote to close something just to have closed it, and make sure the reason they choose applies. Also, for the moment, I encourage our users to challenge the closure of their question on meta if they believe it's erroneous, and I encourage our reviewers to use the "leave open" option more and in accordance with the fruit of this discussion.

If you disagree with me that there have been nonsensical closures, or that they have been more recurring lately, or if you have an additional comment to make, feel free to do so in the answer section, hence .


I have also heard the argument of "But the question is unlikely to attract high-quality answers" in defense of closing some questions with whatever reason, and indeed that is the purpose of close votes. However, if you can't find a reason to close a question, and note that a custom close reason is good enough, maybe it's just you that doesn't like the question and wants to cast a super downvote.

Unfortunately, we've had a problem for quite a while now. It basically boils down to close voting questions with reasons that don't fit. Essentially, the Homework off-topic close reason, "unclear what you're asking", and "too broad" reasons are sometimes used where they make no sense whatsoever.

There's clearly effort in this, so I dunno why anyone would flag it as homework.

This question doesn't ask us to do OP's homework for them, so please don't VTC it even if you don't like it.

I'm leaving this question open. Not everything that contains more than one question mark is too broad, people.

That was me browsing through my own comments. I am not linking to the specific questions because I don't want this to degrade into a fruitless discussion of whether those specific examples should have been closed.

Comments like those do not necessarily indicate a problem (democratic challenge of a close vote in a democratic setting), but their frequency might, and in light of the recent concerns aired in chat by avid close vote reviewers, we need to take a step back and stop treating close votes like a super downvote.

I would like to make a request to the community to not close vote something with a reason unless the reason specifically applies per its definition:

  • "Too broad" is for posts with either a plurality of questions in a way that breaks the duplicate system, or a single "give me a list of organic chemistry books" question
  • The "Unclear what you're asking" for posts that are clearly unanswerable because of lack of details, which ideally should be pointed out in comments.
  • The homework off-topic reason should be applied to what is perceived as effortless homework. The type of question whose poster is more interested in being fed the answer over learning it.

The bullet points are obviously more restrictive than whatever is being applied now, but they're inherently subjective, and we're over that.

Finally, let me emphasize the point of this meta post: I humbly request that our close voters not vote to close something just to have closed it, and make sure the reason they choose applies. Also, for the moment, I encourage our users to challenge the closure of their question on meta if they believe it's erroneous, and I encourage our reviewers to use the "leave open" option more and in accordance with the fruit of this discussion.

If you disagree with me that there have been nonsensical closures, or that they have been more recurring lately, or if you have an additional comment to make, feel free to do so in the answer section, hence .


I have also heard the argument of "But the question is unlikely to attract high-quality answers" in defense of closing some questions with whatever reason, and indeed that is the purpose of close votes. However, if you can't find a reason to close a question, and note that a custom close reason is good enough, maybe it's just you that doesn't like the question and wants to cast a super downvote.

Source Link
M.A.R.
  • 10.7k
  • 30
  • 75

Close Votes Aren't Super Downvotes

Unfortunately, we've had a problem for quite a while now. It basically boils down to close voting questions with reasons that don't fit. Essentially, the Homework off-topic close reason, "unclear what you're asking", and "too broad" reasons are sometimes used where they make no sense whatsoever.

There's clearly effort in this, so I dunno why anyone would flag it as homework.

This question doesn't ask us to do OP's homework for them, so please don't VTC it even if you don't like it.

I'm leaving this question open. Not everything that contains more than one question mark is too broad, people.

That was me browsing through my own comments. I am not linking to the specific questions because I don't want this to degrade into a fruitless discussion of whether those specific examples should have been closed.

Comments like those do not necessarily indicate a problem (democratic challenge of a close vote in a democratic setting), but their frequency might, and in light of the recent concerns aired in chat by avid close vote reviewers, we need to take a step back and stop treating close votes like a super downvote.

I would like to make a request to the community to not close vote something with a reason unless the reason specifically applies per its definition:

  • "Too broad" is for posts with either a plurality of questions in a way that breaks the duplicate system, or a single "give me a list of organic chemistry books" question
  • The "Unclear what you're asking" for posts that are clearly unanswerable because of lack of details, which ideally should be pointed out in comments.
  • The homework off-topic reason should be applied to what is perceived as effortless homework. The type of question whose poster is more interested in being fed the answer over learning it.

The bullet points are obviously more restrictive than whatever is being applied now, but they're inherently subjective, and we're over that.

Finally, let me emphasize the point of this meta post: I humbly request that our close voters not vote to close something just to have closed it, and make sure the reason they choose applies. Also, for the moment, I encourage our users to challenge the closure of their question on meta if they believe it's erroneous, and I encourage our reviewers to use the "leave open" option more and in accordance with the fruit of this discussion.

If you disagree with me that there have been nonsensical closures, or that they have been more recurring lately, or if you have an additional comment to make, feel free to do so in the answer section, hence .


I have also heard the argument of "But the question is unlikely to attract high-quality answers" in defense of closing some questions with whatever reason, and indeed that is the purpose of close votes. However, if you can't find a reason to close a question, and note that a custom close reason is good enough, maybe it's just you that doesn't like the question and wants to cast a super downvote.